Does anyone know....?: Telephone Telegraph Pole Spacing

Candy_Streeter Jul 28, 2010

  1. Candy_Streeter

    Candy_Streeter TrainBoard Member

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    Yes another question from Candy. I want to put telephone poles on my street. I have them ready to go in but I don't know how far apart they should go. Does anyone know if there is some kind of standard distance between poles? I'd like to do this right.

    Also does any modeler put wires on the poles or is that a problem? Just to remind you, I'm doing HO

    Candy
     
  2. Fishplate

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    Telephone pole spacing varies a lot depending on the utility. An average might be about 40 poles per mile, or 132 feet between poles. In HO that would come out to about 18 inches, but I think most modelers put their poles closer together.

    For wire, use EZ Line by Berkshire Junction. It looks real and stretches rather than breaks when snagged.
     
  3. maxairedale

    maxairedale TrainBoard Member

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    Hi Candy,

    I was thinking 120 to 150 so the 132 sounds good. You may want to alter the spacing to break up the pattern.

    EZ Line is available from Fifer Hobby one of the Trainboard advertisers.

    Gary
     
  4. bucklaew

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    Ok, When they put in my electric in they put them 300 ft. apart. I know this for sure because I had to pay for each and every pole to the tune of $1700/pole. This was because I did not have a permanent residence on site. This would put your poles about 4 inches apart for HO.:tb-biggrin:
     
  5. Candy_Streeter

    Candy_Streeter TrainBoard Member

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    Thanks everyone! I'm gunna try that EZ wire and space my poles just a bit closer because I don't have much space.
     
  6. Mike Sheridan

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    I'm pretty sure 300 foot isn't 4 inches :)

    Or powerline poles?
     
  7. MOPMAN

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    I spaced mine about 90 feet apart.

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    BTW this is HO.
     
  8. bucklaew

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    I blew that one big time I got my ft and inches mixed up. It would be just over 3.5 ft. And to me that would be a long ways between poles on a setup.

    1 ft = 87 ft. I was making 1 inch =87ft. Meo copa:tb-biggrin::tb-biggrin:
     
  9. Kurt Moose

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    Model Railroader has a good article too about detailing, wiring, and I think spacing as well in the June '10 issue. :rolleyes:
     
  10. COverton

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    I place my HO poles about 20" apart, plus or minus.

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  11. Kenneth L. Anthony

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    I like EZ-Line.

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    This is a VERY small diorama, say 15 inches wide in N scale, a little closer than oughta be. I had problem with superglue making the EZ Line hold a shape near the superglue blob, shouldve gone easier on it.

    Woodland Scenics "prairie grass"
     
  12. Candy_Streeter

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    Utility poles. Okay, 300 times 12 = 3,600 inches 3,600 divided by 87 = 41 inches
     
  13. Candy_Streeter

    Candy_Streeter TrainBoard Member

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    Oh ! I think I have that one ! THANKS!!!
     
  14. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    It depends upon the situation. Tangent versus the line being turned in a different direction. Terrain underneath. Other utilities or obstacles. How much sag. In the past, spans could vary.

    This might be worthy of a field trip during the coming weekend. See what you can find. Take some photos. Pace off some distances. Just for fun.

    Boxcab E50
     
  15. Candy_Streeter

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    I like that ! is that the .003 or the .006 wire ? I would think .003 for N scale and .006 for HO
     
  16. Hytec

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    In the old days before radio comms, railroad telegraph/signal poles were spaced 100' apart so the rear and front end brakemen would know when they had run a quarter or half mile (132 or 264 poles respectively) to place fuzees and torpedos to protect a stopped train. These poles started to disappear in the 60's and probably were all gone by the 80's.

    As said by others, urban utility poles were placed according to city codes, utility company practices, and the number and weight of the wires hung. Perhaps the best thing is to look for old photos of cities in the northeast, then make your best guess of what looks right. The Library of Congress has an enormous archive of photos. It may take you some time to search through, but I'm sure you'll find something useful.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/
     
  17. river_eagle

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    I put them about 8 inches apart
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  18. Candy_Streeter

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    Great city scene! It's a bit like mine. Your poles are 58 feet apart. They look good! I'm going to take boxcab's advice and see if I can go out to a city street that's similar to mine and pace out the distance between poles. I will be back to my thread with my findings. First I have to measure my petite stride.
     
  19. rhensley_anderson

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    Bell Common Practices

    City poles telephone:
    75 ft on street 40' poles 6' in ground. Tel cable 18' off ground additional
    40 inch minimum clearance to electric lines.

    Rear yards: 30ft light duty poles. Usually every other yard. Cable height
    varies 12-18ft depending on power share requirements.

    Rural: 75-100 feet. Tel cable 18' off ground 40" clearance to electric
    lines.
     
  20. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    100 feet is true for the Milwaukee Road, as verified by numerous blueprints.

    Boxcab E50
     

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