DCC-DC Sound Decoder Throttle...

Sumner Mar 8, 2025

  1. Sumner

    Sumner TrainBoard Member

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    A while back I posted running a DC loco using a sound DCC decoder but left it where it was until now. Finished, more or less, the project and posted a video yesterday.

    The video shows the DCC sound decoder running a DC loco on my DCC test track with the DCC power to the track turned off....



    .... next video will show it providing sound only for a non-sound DCC loco running on the test layout in DCC mode.

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  2. BigJake

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    That's a very interesting concept, using a large scale DCC sound decoder in a stationary role, to provide:
    • DC power for an otherwise DCC layout
    • Sound for a DC loco via layout speaker(s)
    • Sound for a consisted, non-sound, DCC loco via layout speaker(s)
    • Via subwoofer, deep base sound for a consisted DCC sound loco.
    Use an LCC-, DCC-, or Loconet-controlled relay to switch the track power between DC from the large(r) scale decoder, or DCC from the command station. Use more than one such relay to control multiple DC/DCC power districts.

    All from the throttle of your favorite DCC system...
     
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  3. Sumner

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    NOTE: This can control a DC loco on a DCC layout and can provide sound for a non-sound DC or DCC loco. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    On this page I’ll show you how to build your DC & DCC Sound & Loco Controller. Lets start off with the wiring diagram….

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    The wiring is pretty straight forward. I bought the decoder from Streamlined Backshop (HERE) but other suppliers also handle them. I had them put a GP7 EMD 567 prime mover sound file on the decoder since a number of engines in my time period had that prime mover. You could use a sound file of your choosing. The DB107 bridge rectifier, MP1495 module and the KCX transmitter came from Amazon and bought more of the transmitters from China since I’ve burnt some of them up testing/designing. The speaker in the boxcar and with the controller are from DigiKey. Speaker enclosures I 3D printed with print files (HERE). I’ll list the parts for the boxcar later in the build.

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    Not using the small perfboard above for much except to hold the parts. The wires to and from the bridge rectifier are soldered to it under the board. There are ring holes on the left side of the 1495 board where you solder the input wires to. I soldered the wires to the edge of those rings so that I could use two M2 threaded screws to hold the board to the perfboard and wood under it. I like to use solder pads as it is easy to attach multiple wires in a small space and easy to solder them on or off. I use .031” double side boards as I also use them for PCB ties building N scale turnouts.

    Since the screw is isolated from the end pads you don’t have to put gaps on the underside of the PCB but I do anyway. Always keep in mind though that the screw can carry current to the underside of the board which can at times be a problem. Isolate that side if needed.

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    The wire (bottom left) will go to a SPDT switch used to select the speaker output. I used a connector (while testing) but the wire could run directly there without the connector.

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    The hardest part of the build can be soldering the wires to the KTX transmitter module. I’ve tried different ways and the method above is by far the easiest. Trying to solder a wire right to it is hard as the pad spacing is very close. I found the best way was to cut wires from resistors (I have hundreds that I’ll never use). Make a hook in the end of the wire and run it through the hole on the KTX. Flatten it with some needle nose pliers. I put liquid flux on with a micro brush. I then use a fine tip iron as hot as it goes and some very thin solder (.3 mm). Put a little drop of solder on the iron tip. Get on the wire & pad and off as soon as you see the solder flow.

    Cut the wires short (see image above). I soldered #26 wire to the short resistor wire. I’ll put a larger blob of solder on the iron tip and hold the wire against the side of the resistor wire and drag the solder along the two wires and off. After doing it a time or two you will get the hang of it.

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    When I was doing the first test I burned the KTX Bluetooth transmitter up with evidently too much current going to it from the decoder’s speaker output wire (surprised me). Then I added some resistance to the circuit (100k not 100 ohm) and had no further problems. The audio gnd attaches to the boards gnd and both of those attach to the gnd on the 1495. Above the audio gnd wire attaches to the other gnc wire between the KTX and the 1495. Later I soldered both wires to the 1495 (either will work).

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    I’ll end up with a 9x16mm or a 9x25mm speaker with a larger enclosure. The 8x12mm shown here is OK but the sound will be better with a larger speaker and larger enclosure.

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    Make sure the resistor from the selector switch to the volume pot is 100K and not 100 ohm .

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    I used a DPDT-CO toggle since I had one but the poles on one side aren’t needed or used so you could use a SPDT-CO if you have one.

    The next page will document the Bluetooth boxcar build .....

    More about the build ( HERE ).

    Sumner

     
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