Corrugated Aluminum Roofing Material

Mr X Feb 12, 2007

  1. Mr X

    Mr X TrainBoard Member

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    I have gotten close to the answer on my own. But, I have searched the web and I can not find the "absolute correct" answer to the question below.

    What size should I cut this alluminum material? Or what is the typical size of length and width of corrugated Alluminum roofing material used on an industry roof and where it would be exposed to snow?

    My building which is a coal mine in this case will be exposed to hypothetical snow during the hypothetical winter on the layout, so I am sure the panels will need to be shorter and perhaps less wide to compensate for the weight of the snow.

    I have looked at several actual metal supply shops online and found some useful info but really hate to call them to waste there time since I am not buying anything from them.

    I found a pretty good chart about lengths and widths but I am not overly sure how to read it.

    http://www.corrugated-metals.com/267x12_corrugated.html

    Any ideas or suggestions for the size to cut the materials?

    Mr X
     
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  2. Mr X

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    Panel Size Update

    I did some more digging and I think I have found the size that I will end up going with.

    I have decided to go with 7 N-Scale feet long by 51 1/3 N-Scale inches wide. This will allow the panels to over lap and provide 48 inches of exposure. I believe this should be fairly accurate. I think this should hold a hypothetical snow load of 263 pounds per square foot if I am reading the load chart correctly. Not that it overly matters though...since it will never snow on my layout.

    I will let you all know how the roof turns out via some pictures when it is done. The only bad thing is the roof will now need 62 of these scaled down panels to be fully covered.

    By the way this is what it is going on:

    [​IMG]

    Mr X
     
  3. Tony Burzio

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    Corrugated Panel Specifications:
    • Available in 29 gauge steel or 0.019" thick aluminum
    • 24" coverage for steel, 48" coverage for aluminum
    • 1/2" Rib height
    • Available in custom lengths up to 16' in aluminum and 40' in steel
    • 2.67" Pitch
    http://www.metalroofingsource.com/panels-2cor.htm
     
  4. Powersteamguy1790

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    Mr. X:

    Is that the Blair Line Cash Mine lasercut building kit?


    Stay cool and run steam.....:cool::cool:
     
  5. Mr X

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    Wow, that is pretty cool to have that asked. I guess except for the cage ladder from Gold Medal Models and the windows and doors from the "The 1 Kit" from Bar Mills it is totally scratch built. I started out with an N-Scale ruler, a pencil, and a piece of white computer paper. I just designed it and built it up from there.

    When I designed this mine I had already placed my plaster and some scenery in the area so I knew the space that I was allowed for the foot print. I knew how tall I wanted it becuase of some trees and a cut and just kind of worked from there.

    I got the general idea for this mine from a prototype photo but for the life of me I can not find it now. If you look at the mine in my RailImages the flat deck portion near the ladder did not become a deck until recently. After seeing your pictures and having this discussion I decided that a flat roof just would not look good and most likely would cave in if it snowed or rain collected. Also, to add any eaves to the sides to make a slope would/could have covered the windows on the upper story.

    Any way with these kinds of comments, I guess people like it. I was not overly sure about it when it first was built. That is why I have been tinkering with it for a while now. (Three years maybe???)

    I still may not be done with it once the roof gets in place. There are two options that I have thought of and maybe some day I will add them. One idea is a winch house and assembly - but I think it would make it too tall for my taste although I do have the parts for it already. The other is a covered conveyor area that goes from the opposite side from the deck into the side of the mountain. Who knows what I will do to it...

    It just makes me feel good that you thought it was a model that a builder/supplier came out with - thank you for the compliment.

    I would like to see the other kit as well if you have a picture or know where I could look at it.

    Mr X
     
  6. Powersteamguy1790

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    Mr. X:

    I built the Blair Line "Cash Mines" which is very similar to your scratch built kit.

    I'll take some pictures of it, when I find a place for it on the JJJ&E.Right now it's sitting on an unfinished part of the JJJ&E.

    Stay cool and run steam.....:cool::cool:
     
  7. Mr X

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    I would love to see the other mine when you get a chance. Perhaps it was taken from the same prototype photo if it is that similar.

    Well I have finally gotten the roofing material on the mine. I did a test run on six panels with rust, grime, mud, dirt, and dust last night. The test run turned out great! I cannot wait for this paint to dry so I can get it completed. Too bad I think it needs one more coat of primer. I guess I should have read to cut them all up and install them before you paint them.

    I just uploaded ten pictures to my rail images showing the progress of putting the roofing materials on.

    Below is one of the pictures:

    [​IMG]

    I will provide an update but probably not as many pictures once I get the rest of it painted.

    Mr X
     
  8. OC Engineer JD

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    Looks great! Nice model Mr. X. Be sure to post some pictures of it on the layout with scenery.:)
     
  9. Mr X

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    OC Engineer JD

    I will most certainly do that and thank you for the compliment.

    I do not think this mine will ever be truly 'complete.' Just like a layout there is always more to add to it. Maybe I will name it 'Tinkering Mine.'

    I have recently seen a few pictures here and there that gave me some new ideas for it other than the ones I have already mentioned. My new ideas are adding such things as air pipes, working lighting, perhaps even a sign or two. Who knows where it could go.

    Taking pictures and seeing it in the photo you really get an idea of "Mmmm ... you know that would look pretty good there..."

    Any way I will let you know how it turns out. Once again I appreciate everyone's help.

    Mr X
     
  10. Powersteamguy1790

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    This photo is from 4Nscale.com website.


    [​IMG]

    • Cash Mine Works is based on the Silver King Ore House in Park City, Utah. The kit be used as a ore or coal mine. This is an excellent structure to model with interesting and varied roof lines. Many exposed structural frames. And covered loading areas for 2 tracks or use one for rail and the other for truck loading. Great looks of a craftsman style kit, but laser-cutting makes it easy to build.
    • Over 230 laser-cut pieces including walls with tab and slot connections, doors, trim, floor, roofing and structural frames. Forty two Grandt Line windows. And signs.
    • N kit dimensions .......(4.00" x 4.50" x 5.50" tall)
    I'll take some pictures of the finished kit sometime this weekend. It still doesn't have a final resting place on the JJJ&E.

    Stay cool and run steam.....:cool::cool:
     
  11. Mr X

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    Success?

    Well here it is. The coalmine has been placed on the layout. (Still not quite finished yet - after the roofing got on there I need to add a few trim pieces.)

    Please let me know what you think of the roofing material and the paints. More pictures to come...

    [​IMG]

    If you have yet to see it. Please check out how this mine progressed at my railimages link below.

    Thank you for all the input from everyone.

    Mr X
     
  12. Mr X

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    Okay I think all the new pictures are posted to my personal gallery. So feel free and have a look. The link is below. For those of you who can not wait to go over there here is one of my favorite pictures of the "new" mine.

    [​IMG]

    Mr X
     
  13. Powersteamguy1790

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    Nicely done.:thumbs_up:

    Stay cool and run steam......:cool::cool:
     
  14. Matthew Roberts

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    Looks like a job well done! I like the aluminum! :teeth: :teeth: :teeth: :teeth:
     
  15. Mr X

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    Thank you for the words of encouragement. I have another mine that I am going to do with this same roofing material.

    This mine's roof was painted with the following paints:

    - Three or four, maybe even five base coats of Floquil Polly S SP Lettering Gray F414179 (I would recommend cutting the pieces to the sizes you need them first and installing them before you paint your first coat.)

    - Dry brush of Floquil Polly S Rust F414323

    - Dry brush of Floquil Polly S Grime F110086

    - Dry Brush of Floquil Polly S Dust F414305

    - Dry Brush of Floquil Polly S Mud F414314

    Thank you again for the help - most appreciated. Other paints and other methods will work but just wanted to share what I ended up using.

    Mr X
     
  16. OC Engineer JD

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    WOW!!! Excellent job on the weathering! This model should inspire alot of forum members.:)
     

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