CORP's Coos line closure...

John Barnhill Sep 21, 2007

  1. BOK

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    Folks:

    It is becoming increasingly expensive to maintain railroads and in many cases the alternative is for the states /shippers/ and railroad to cooperatively chip in to keep a line in operation. In several states the governing bodies have determined that the choice comes down to either helping refurbish the tracks or face abandonment of service and pay increasing highway maintenence costs for heavier trucks to replace the rail.

    I can assure you that few in the railroad business whether Class 1 or shortline are making big profits operating railroads. I would hope that the UP in this case would contribute rehabilitation funds towards this line but I also believe the RA should have known this going into a lease/purchase of 120 miles of very, expensive, railroad to maintain.

    The ideal shortline to invest in, is one 5-10 miles long with NO tunnels, bridges, interlockings/signals, few road crossings, few curves, a good connection with a Class1 outside of a major town and with plenty of industries and industrial growth opportunities. Anything other than this "ideal operation" is pretty much a crap shoot.

    Unfortunately, most rail served industries are located in hard to reach locations which
    often require expensive railroads to service them. This is one reason I no longer have a desire to manage/own a shortline... too many hassles and not enough money.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Barry,

    Training new railroaders in Kansas
     
  2. YoHo

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    If the line to Coos Bay were one of these ideals you suggest, then Southern Pacific/UP would never have sold it off in the first place. Short llines and industrials always deal with the types of operations that are marginal.

    Of course, if such a deep water Container port occurs, I think you could assume that CORP would lose control of the route pretty quickly as UP and BNSF fight over it.
     
  3. John Barnhill

    John Barnhill TrainBoard Member

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    FRA findings

    KTVZ Channel 21 (Eugene OR):

    http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=7376645&nav=menu578_1

    Railroad said justified in closing Coos Bay line

    Associated Press - November 17, 2007 8:35 PM ET

    COOS BAY, Ore. (AP) -- The Federal Railroad Administration says the Central
    Oregon and Pacific Railroad was justified in closing its Coos Bay rail line
    this fall.

    The inspection report was ordered by Oregon Congressman Peter DeFazio and
    supports a private consulting firm's conclusions that three tunnels on the rail
    line in the Florence- Mapleton area are unsafe.

    The railroad closed the line in September following a July report based on
    tunnel inspections in March.

    But it was the 1-day's notice of the [closure] that has led to a lawsuit by the
    Port of Coos Bay contending the railroad violated lease agreements for its use
    of the Coos Bay Rail Bridge and the North Spit rail for not giving 180 days'
    advance notice.

    DeFazio said the railroad and its parent company, RailAmerica, should give up
    ownership of the rail line. He opposes a company proposal for a public- private
    partnership to spend more than $23 million for repairs.
     
  4. SteamDonkey74

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    This is an editorial from the Eugene Register-Guard.


    <http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/dt.cms.support.viewStory.cls?cid=23996&sid=1&fid=1>



    Plan gets 'A' for audacity



    Eugene Register-Guard editorial

    Published: Nov 18, 2007 05:01:33AM



    For sheer chutzpah, it's hard to beat the strategy of the Boca Raton, Fla., hedge
    fund that owns the Central Oregon and Pacific Railroad's 120-mile short line between
    Coquille and Eugene.



    Earlier this year the fund, with billions in investments, acquired Rail America,
    CORP's parent company. In September, CORP abruptly announced it was shutting down
    the Coquille-Eugene line, giving its customers just one day's notice. The
    explanation: The company could not afford the $7 million in repairs needed to
    upgrade unsafe tunnels along the route.



    Now, the company has proposed a plan to reopen the railroad, which provides critical
    service to four major coastal employers. All that's required is that the Port of
    Coos Bay, the companies that rely on the line to ship their goods, the state
    Department of Transportation and the Union Pacific railroad all agree to help foot
    the bill for the repairs. And, oh yes, the cost will include not only $7 million in
    tunnel upgrades, but also $2.4 million for repairing railroad ties, $10.4 million
    for bridge work and $3 million to fix drainage problems — a total of $23 million.
    Then there's the little matter of the $10 million in state subsidies over five years
    that the railroad company wants to defray the $1.5 million annually that it claims
    it loses on the line. Plus it hopes to stuff another $2.5 million in its pockets in
    the process.



    The plan may set new standards for corporate arrogance. In exchange for a nominal
    investment of $4.66 million, Rail America, and the hedge fund that owns it, would
    have an upgraded rail line plus a nice wad of guaranteed state subsidies. Not a bad
    position to be in when there's serious talk of a proposed shipping container port in
    Coos Bay that could turn the reconditioned line into a highly lucrative asset.



    U.S. Rep. Peter DeFazio is amply justified in calling the plan "outrageous" and
    characterizing it as "a group of super-rich hedge fund managers who are trying to
    extort the Port of Coos Bay and the people of Oregon." He's also right to point out
    that the $23 million cost of repairing the rail line is "chump change" for the
    company, especially given the line's potential future profitability.



    The railroad company has given its prospective "partners" a month to decide if they
    want to invest in this brazen scheme. There's no need to wait that long. They should
    tell the railroad company and its hedge fund owners to take a hike, and the state
    and port should initiate a "feeder line" application — a process through which an
    outside buyer attempts to convince the federal Surface Transportation Board that a
    railroad has either abandoned a line or allowed it to deteriorate to an
    unsatisfactory level. If the state and port prevail, they would be able to buy the
    line and contract with another railroad to provide service.



    Rail America and its hedge fund owners have another option. They could withdraw
    their insulting plan and make the investment necessary to resume safely operating
    the short line that is vital to the continued operation of coastal employers and the
    hundreds of men and women whose livelihoods depend on them.



    Now, that would be a truly audacious act.
     
  5. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    "Now, that would be a truly audacious act".

    Yes. It would. We can only hope... Sadly, I doubt...

    Thanks for posting this story!

    Boxcab E50
     
  6. SteamDonkey74

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    That line was theirs, not mine. I realize it probably looked like mine. My only text was at the beginning before the piece.

    Adam
     
  7. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Adam-

    Yes. I know. That's why I didn't use the quote post function. Which would have shown as it coming from you.

    Boxcab E50
     
  8. SteamDonkey74

    SteamDonkey74 TrainBoard Supporter

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    Got it... I thought that you thought it was mine.

    I gotta get some more work done here... it's always the days before holidays that seem to explode around here. I am waiting for my computer to crunch some graphics so I can go onto the next drawing.
     
  9. Scott Stutzman

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    Oh yeah! Great! "Let the state buy the line and contract another railroad to run it" For a Loss! Yeah Right! Sounds expensive.(for me the tax payer) What's wrong with the initial proposal? Oh, I forgot.. This is Oregon.
     
  10. BoxcabE50

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    Regarding the "proposal" in that article quoted above, I have an idea. If the line is reworked, and reopened, there must be a guarantee from the RR it will remain safely, and efficiently operable. (Standards for upkeep established.)

    Second, any public revenues involved, or monies input from the shippers, should a port be opened, or traffic increase to proven profitability, the RR will be required to pay back every stinking penny. Just as if those funds were a loan.

    Boxcab E50
     
  11. BoxcabE50

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    Did this line receive any damage, during the recent storm? Or was it by chance far enough out of the direct path? I fear any damage, as that would be quickly used in the move toward abandonment.

    Boxcab E50
     
  12. Ironhorseman

    Ironhorseman April, 2018 Staff Member In Memoriam

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    Good point, Boxcab. I donno the answer though. We had alot of rain down here, but no damage reported.
     

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