Con-cor J3A 4-6-4 Shells

Reaper_Tech May 15, 2019 at 8:50 PM

  1. Reaper_Tech

    Reaper_Tech New Member

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    Is there any good places to find steam locomotive shells or someone that makes them?

    I got a couple Con-cor J3a 4-6-4s id like to swap the shells on to make a bullet nose and a shovel nose loco. One is a china offering the latter a kato 2nd gen I know the shells are all interchangeable for the most part but havent had any luck tracking them down. Figured I would ask the community so no rock goes unturned as I keep my eyes on ebay to see what I can find.
     
  2. acptulsa

    acptulsa TrainBoard Member

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    Con-Cor probably sells them. But their website is so kludgy I don't know how anyone would ever find them.
     
  3. Reaper_Tech

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    I already asked them directly they told me they don't have them since the last run was so many years ago. Then again they also said they didnt have any extra motors but they do.. So who knows?
     
  4. acptulsa

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    Their site is so kludgy they don't know what they sell?
     
  5. Reaper_Tech

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    Yeah basically I have the messages and the paypal invoice to prove that lol
     
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  6. Hardcoaler

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    Despite their age, the Con-Cor Kato J3as are still prized, with the shovel nose and bullet nosed variants being the most treasured. Working models of the shovel nose and bullet nosed models often sell for $100 to $175 depending. With some patience, hopefully you'll be able to find a shell or two at a more reasonable price.
     
  7. Reaper_Tech

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    Well i got what i wanted.

    So a different Con-cor rep got back to me and they did have Bullet and Shovel nose shells. So i have 1 of each on the way. Talk about running in circles.
     
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  8. MK

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    Don't you just love coporate supply chain, and not just in the MRR industry?!
     
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  9. r_i_straw

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    I got spoiled years ago when Charlie Vlk worked at Con Cor. I could call him up and he knew what they had.
     
  10. Reaper_Tech

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    Yeah i went through facebook one of the reps was great the other seemed a bit brusque and just wanted me to go away via boilerplate excuse

    Patrick was the reps name was really cordial and got things done.

    Other rep just gave me the its an old engine, tooling would be $100,000, blah blah no plans to rerun.
     
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  11. Charlie Vlk

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    1. I got spoiled years ago when Charlie Vlk worked at Con Cor. I could call him up and he knew what they had.

    Russ-
    You are going back a few years!!! I worked at JMC International (the wholesale distribution business) from 1993 to 1995, doing new dealer development, backup dealer sales representative, the "What's New" dealer newsletter, Con-Cor repairs, and a little bit of R&D work for Con-Cor.
    AFAIK all the repair department material got transported to Tucson when JMC closed down. Because of the reliability of the J3a Hudson there were very few repair parts in inventory....about the only thing that would go wrong with them is somebody would yank the tender pickup wires off the motor soldered connection on the engine.
    The very first run of China-built Hudsons did have a couple of quirks though....the factory molded the driver center/axle stubs out of slippery engineering plastic....not good for what was supposed to be a force fit into the gear to keep the wheels in gauge. So some of the early engines tend to work themselves out of gauge. Properly made though, the Kato/Con-Cor J3a Hudson is still probably the best designed N Scale mechanism and is worthy of being copied (as has Micro-Ace in their Japanese JNR steam line). Low parts count, simple rugged mechanism that pulls very well. Not much to go wrong and easy to maintain over time.....
    Charlie Vlk
     
  12. Reaper_Tech

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    Well one of the ebay hudsons had a dead motor. Got the old motor out but theres not much holding the new motor in place. So it doesn't like to mate the rest of the drive shaft. Previous owner looks to have tried a make shift repair using a whole lot of caulking. (bad wiring job lots of caulk) trying to rebuild this thing is gonna be a nightmare. That said I got a wheel assembly and a motor. the real question is to get the motor to stay put.
     

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