CBQ Colorado and Southern C-16

I think the C & S had at least one 2-8-0 C-16 (I believe it is currently at the Colroado Railroad Museum). I can't find any others on their roster. What about the leased locos? Were those C-16s and if so does anyone know when the C & S started leasing them?
John

 

Which one are you thinking of?

 

I think its the 191 (originally DSP PRR 51). The oldest steam engine in Colorado...its a Baldwin.
John

 

Here is shots taken October 16, 1993 at the CRRM

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Thanks Darren...knew you would have shots!! Are both of those C-16s?
John

 

The engine has a long history. It was originally built for the Denver South Park and Pacific and was numbered "51". Later it became the 191, a number it retained through the changing of hands and railroad names until in 1899 when the Colorado and Southern renumbered it the 31. It only was in service on the
C & S for 3 years, being sold to an interest in Wisconsin in 1902. From there it became the Thunder Lake Lumber Company Number 7 and remained in service until retirement. In 1932 when it became part of a static display at the Rhinelander Logging Museum. Photos I have seen of the engine at the museum indicate that it had little care. In 1973 it was returned to Colroado, ending up at the Colorado Railroad Museum. It was restored and is listed on the National Register of Historic Places as the oldest steam engine in Colroado.
John

 

AAAhhhh! I just found an obscure reference noting that the 191 is a class B-4-A not a C-16!! Well, back to my original question then: did the C & S have ANY C-16 engines? Things are not looking too good for running my BLI C-16 after all!!
John

 

Not certain...

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Actually, C-16 is a D&RGW classification not a C&S. So technically C&S didn't have any C-16s but they did have some 2-8-0s.

Eric

 

C&S 2-8-0s

C&S # 30-36 Baldwin 2-8-0 B-4A cyl:15X18 37' Dr. wt.61,750
C&S # 37-56 Cooke 2-8-0 B-4B cyl:15X18 37' Dr. wt.66,000
C&S # 57-62 Rhode Island 2-8-0 B-4C cyl:16X18 37' Dr. wt.71,000
C&S # 63-70 Baldwin 2-8-0 B-4D cyl:16X20 37' Dr. wt.76,000
C&S # 71-73 Baldwin 2-8-0 B-4E cyl:15.5X20 37' Dr. wt.80,5000
C&S # 74-76 Brookes 2-8-0 B-4F cyl:16X20 37' Dr. wt.95,500

 

Thanks Steve, I knew they had 2-8-0s as you have listed. Now the question is are the classifications they used and those the DR & G used for the exact same engine or were there differences in the 2-8-0 types??
John

 

The D&RG had one engine that shared a common Baldwin serial number series with the DSP&P 2-8-0s, (49 hundreds, delivered in the 1880s). They may have been delivered looking exactly the same but I doubt if they would have remained similar in appearance into the C&S era. Throw a bear trap stack on it and call it close enough. C&S leased a C-19 from D&RG http://www.drgw.net/gallery/DRGW346. I'd say it's your railroad so run what you like and have fun.

 

excellent! Also thanks for the link. I think this thing will end up being numbered the 191 as originally planned.
John