Coal Loads.... Waddeyedew?

virtual-bird Oct 12, 2000

  1. virtual-bird

    virtual-bird TrainBoard Member

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    There is a kid in our club with some REAL REAL top looking coal loads, and when our trains passed, my 'Red Caboose' hoppers with their plastic inserts looked like shat and I couldnt hide fast enough...

    I bought some 'coal' from the local train hobby shop, to put in my coal hoppers so they look like REAL loads not the plastic inserts..

    I used White (wood/general purpose)glue mixed with water close to 80/20...

    The coal looks good, but the glue doesnt want to dry. Its now well over 24 hours...

    Any ideas what I done wrong?

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    K, C, & Bird Butt Railroad - SP, NS, and ROCK admirer.
    Its a coal mining region of a place far far away, that runs, SP, NS, and some CSX..
    Also some Custom RARE Bird RR sd40-2's coming!
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  2. porkypine52

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    Not sure what you did wrong. I would have mixed the white glue 50-50 with water. Also added a drop or two of KODAK PHOTO-FLO or dishwash soap to help the glue/water mix flow freely.
    How did you load the coal in the cars? Fill the car with coal and then cover with the white glue mix to hold the load in place? If you filled the whole car with coal, it might take more than a day to dry.

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  3. virtual-bird

    virtual-bird TrainBoard Member

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by porkypine52:
    Not sure what you did wrong. I would have mixed the white glue 50-50 with water. Also added a drop or two of KODAK PHOTO-FLO or dishwash soap to help the glue/water mix flow freely.
    How did you load the coal in the cars? Fill the car with coal and then cover with the white glue mix to hold the load in place? If you filled the whole car with coal, it might take more than a day to dry.
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    I put some foam under the coal so it wouldnt take so much..

    May try 50/50... it didnt flow that well... may try some detergent in with it...

    Anything else??


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    K, C, & Bird Butt Railroad - SP, NS, and ROCK admirer.
    Its a coal mining region of a place far far away, that runs, SP, NS, and some CSX..
    Also some Custom RARE Bird RR sd40-2's coming!
    Era:
    Time stands still round these parts, and we have everything from Steam, to Diesels of today.
     
  4. Maxwell Plant

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    I've seen RoyalBlue do this before. Take an old modeling paint brush and put the white glue, non-duleted, on the top of the plastic load. Dip the load into a pile of scale coal and let it dry. After it's all dry, he paints the load with a semi-gloss black paint. Install the load back into the car and you're done! LOOKS REAL COOL! [​IMG]

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  5. ed pinkley

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    i've done the royal blue treatment to 83 coal hoppers and they turned out very nice.i used white glue and brushed it on then used woodland scenics fine coal let it dry on there and then scale coat it holds great and is dry within a hour or two,depends on how thick the glue is.the easiest way to get the coal to look good is to pop out the insert,brush your glue on top of the insert,put it in a container so the coal doesn't go everywhere, and then pour the coal on top of the insert,then dump the excess off.they really look real.

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  6. Eagle2

    Eagle2 Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Another technique:

    Take the plastic insert for the Precision Master/Red Caboose hopper and glue it in upside down. Pour/spoon in coal until you're satisfied with how it looks. Soak the coal with glass cleaner (the cheap stuff) and then dribble on 50/50 white glue and water until the load looks "frosty." Let sit overnight, and there you go.

    By the way, most of my loads are made using crushed real coal, so the cars are well weighted as well as realistic.

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  7. Gats

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    When did you do these, Bruce? If you have ventured outside, you would have noted the wet stuff falling (I know, I was out in it today sailing!). Humidity is up and white glue will take a while to dry in this weather.

    Gary.
     
  8. virtual-bird

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gats:
    When did you do these, Bruce? If you have ventured outside, you would have noted the wet stuff falling (I know, I was out in it today sailing!). Humidity is up and white glue will take a while to dry in this weather.

    Gary.
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    Gaz. yea I know its wet and cold, you dont have to tell me, I cant run from shelter to shelter, I have to freeze and stumble and trip and nearly fall from puddle to puddle....

    Well have been away for 3 days, and the coal loads are...
    out of 4 of them all done different ways, mixtures, and more, they are all now dry, but I still dont know what looks the best.

    I find getting the mounds in them the hardest, as the mixture when it flows thru, it flattens it out like a flammin pancake...

    ideas on this..

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    RR:
    K, C, & Bird Butt Railroad - SP, NS, and ROCK admirer.
    Its a coal mining region of a place far far away, that runs, SP, NS, and some CSX..
    Also some Custom RARE Bird RR sd40-2's coming!
    Era:
    Time stands still round these parts, and we have everything from Steam, to Diesels of today.
     

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