Building N scale Long-Span Bridges (perhaps a class?)

Pete Nolan Jun 17, 2005

  1. Pete Nolan

    Pete Nolan TrainBoard Supporter

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    I'm trying to gauge interest in a "class" on building a long-span truss bridge in N scale. By long-span, I mean a bridge of about 400 feet (30 inches) from anchor to anchor, although everything could be scaled down (or up), and I can give guidance on scaling.

    Before doing this as a "class," I need some input as to your interests. I'm going to leave this query open-ended, except for the following:

    No suspension bridges.
    No trestles.
    Steel structure.

    So, fire away! For those of you unfamiliar with my bridges, here's some, based on prototypes:

    [​IMG]

    Bridges are easy to make, once you learn a few tricks.
     
  2. Powersteamguy1790

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    A class in basic bridge building techniques would be invaluable.

    These basic techniques can then be applied to any type of bridge with minor modifications.


    Stay cool and run steam..... [​IMG] :cool: :cool:
     
  3. UP_Phill

    UP_Phill TrainBoard Supporter

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    Excellent idea Pete.
     
  4. BikerDad

    BikerDad E-Mail Bounces

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    [​IMG] Where do I sign up!?!?!? [​IMG]
     
  5. Caddy58

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    Pete,

    yes please, sign me up!! [​IMG]

    I have 2 areas on my layout under constructiion where I will need to have a number of bridges:

    First the Tacoma City Watwerway

    [​IMG]

    These bridges are (left to right):
    1. UP drawbridge (with street at both sides)
    2. NP drawbridge
    3. 11th Street liftbridge (with pipe over the top of the towers)


    [​IMG]

    Bridges at Reservation, WA, Milwaukee crossing NP/GN/UP main line and then the Puyallup River

    Currently I plan to kitbash, but scratchbuilding will bring me closer to the prototype.

    So yes, let us know how you did your outstanding bridges... :eek: :eek:

    Cheers
    Dirk
     
  6. Caddy58

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    The UP and NP bridges are actually rotating bridges, not sure if that would qualify them as "drawbridges" [​IMG]
     
  7. Grey One

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    I would save every word of it. I have definate plans for two long bridges on ghe GandG sub division.
     
  8. Len

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    Pete
    Please sign me up. This is the sort of info that I print out and keep in three ring binders. Prior to starting a project, I always refer to one of these downloaded "books".

    Len
     
  9. Bernard

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    This is a problem I've been dealing with for weeks and even after reading "Bridges & Tressels" there are still questions on my mind. A lot of time it's left to "trial & error" whereas a simple instruction would explain "why proceedures are done this particular way". It's a GREAT idea!
     
  10. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    Around here they were called "Swing" bridges.
    Here is a cool website about bridges.
    Glossary of Bridge Terms
     
  11. okane

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    Count me in please!!!
     
  12. Mr.Wrinkles

    Mr.Wrinkles E-Mail Bounces

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    I am also interested. I have a 20 inch gap to cross and would like to use a traditional steel bridge crossing a river.
     
  13. TJS909

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    this would be great! I've always wanted to build one of Santa Fe's big bridges like Diablo canyon (new and old) and the bridge over the Colorado river (Ca/AZ) [​IMG]
     
  14. Colonel

    Colonel Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Pete,

    I think you have a class ready to go including me :D
     
  15. Pete Nolan

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    OK, then,

    I'm preparing a class.

    My initial thought is to do a 36-inch long bridge (480 feet). This will fit on a four-foot N-Trak module. It will be double-tracked at the N-Trak standard of 1.5 inches--a bit wider than I'd like. I'd like 1.125 inches, but don't want a "pinch" at both ends of the module. You could build it single track without too much of a problem--I'll cover that.

    I thought I'd build a "curved chord" bridge--those that want to build it straight would have that option, too.

    A good reference for model bridge builders is Kalmbach's "Bridges and Trestles." This is not a pre-requisite and I'm not promoting Kalmbach in any way, but it has a finely detailed drawing of the 300-foot Big Warrior. I'm going to refer to that drawing quite a bit, as it is instructive about bridge building.

    Those of you who can find Paul Mallery's Carstens book "Bridge and Trestle Handbook" will also find it helpful. I think it may be out of print.

    I'm going to skip a lot of details about "stressed rod" and other design aspects, as I think most people will be glad just to build a good-looking bridge and not get into some of the details that might fascinate a budding engineer.

    Be aware that a 36-inch bridge built with plastic or brass trusses can get expensive. The class will have one solution for that; others may have other solutions.

    Given my current work schedule, I doubt I can start before Sept. 1.

    Any feedback?

    [ June 17, 2005, 10:55 PM: Message edited by: Pete Nolan ]
     
  16. Mr.Wrinkles

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    That works fine for me, school starts in August so anytime after labor day, should fit in between homework. :D
     
  17. Espeeman

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    Pete,
    I have a need for one and I'd rather learn to build it than try to buy one! Count me in!!!
     
  18. N_S_L

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    Since I'm done with bridges for the moment... I have that Kalmbach "Bridges and Trestles" book for sale... lightly used... PM me if you're interested.
     
  19. JBT

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    I'm very interested.
     
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