brass not plastic...

virtual-bird Mar 21, 2001

  1. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    This thread should be conducted in a cordial tone or posts will be deleted. There is nothing to argue about here gentlemen.

    Charlie
     
  2. Mopac3092

    Mopac3092 TrainBoard Member

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    well scott have you contacted atlas or your retailer? usually when i have a problem i contact them and they will take care of it. didn't you have problems with the sd60's also? maybe atlas has some problems although my sd60's and b23-7's run perfectly fine. put that warranty to use on them that's what it's for.
     
  3. John Barnhill

    John Barnhill TrainBoard Member

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    I find some wobble acceptable. Look at the real thing next time you're out railfanning. Sometimes they wobble so much it starts to concern me.
     
  4. Gats

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    John, just like the old C&NW branchlines with RSD5's and 40' grain boxcars swaying over light, jointed track on less than perfect roadbed at 5-10 mph?
    The good ol' days of granger railroading *sigh*

    Gary.
    A closet C&NW fan [​IMG]
     
  5. squirrelkinns

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    There was a while back a report from the FRA about car wobble and its dangers. Well the main thing I remember from it is a statement about a study done on 40' boxcars. It seems according to this report that they will ossilate dangerously at slow speeds (like any car would I guess) but as the car approached 45mph the ossilations of the car would become so bad as to literally throw it off the track. I've seen evidence of this out at the phosphate plants in my area.
     
  6. Scott Siebler

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mopac3092:
    well scott have you contacted atlas or your retailer? usually when i have a problem i contact them and they will take care of it. didn't you have problems with the sd60's also? maybe atlas has some problems although my sd60's and b23-7's run perfectly fine. put that warranty to use on them that's what it's for.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I am suspose to get 2 new truck assembles this week from Atlas.
     
  7. John Barnhill

    John Barnhill TrainBoard Member

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    Gats, got that right :D I just consider it prototypical ;) Maybe I've come up with a new marketing scheme, "new and improved with realistic wobble!"
    :D :D ;) As for brass, I don't care what they come out with, my budget doesn't even allow me to afford Kato or Atlas let alone a few hundred dollars for just one unit! :mad: Doesn't matter how well they run. I'll stick to buying anything and I mean anything I can model in SP. I have around 50 units and only 4 are Atlas. After being superdetailed, no one can tell the difference except other modelers and even they are impressed with what you can do with the cheap stuff. :cool:

    [ 29 March 2001: Message edited by: John Barnhill ]
     
  8. squirrelkinns

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mopac3092:
    well scott have you contacted atlas or your retailer? usually when i have a problem i contact them and they will take care of it. didn't you have problems with the sd60's also? maybe atlas has some problems although my sd60's and b23-7's run perfectly fine. put that warranty to use on them that's what it's for.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    To fix the wheel wobble problem all you have to do is unbend the wheel wipers. This fix is effective on all of Atlas's low-friction trucks, I know this works having done it on my TrainMasters as well as the rest of my clubs personal engine rosters. If you feel unsure about doing this yourself, your local hobby shop's repair person should be able to do it for you. The problem doesn't really require replacing the trucks
    P.S. It also quiets down the extra gear noise.

    ;)
     
  9. Scott Siebler

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by squirrelkinns:

    I have checked the wipers and they are not bent. The wheels on the axle are not aligned(not out of gauge) because it rolls funny when I blow it down the track
     
  10. squirrelkinns

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    Miaqulpa!
    I guess I should've mentioned that there still might be manufacturing defects but some people get upset when the words Atlas and Defects are used in the same subject line.(I know they are note the only one that has problems it is just that this one problem is so consistant to this manufacturer)
    A fellow modeler at my club bought four B23-7's (that was a big outlay of money on his part) and all four had the bent wiper problem. this fix was applied to all of them and only one still has a slight wobble so now all he needs is one truck from Atlas not eight.
    I should've said do this first and maybe you would not have to replace as many as you first thought.
    :rolleyes:
     
  11. Alan

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    We have three B23-7's, but cannot run them yet, as they are DCC fitted, and I have not yet laid out the cash for the DCC system (and lots of decoders), so I will watch out for any wobbles when we get converted [​IMG]
     
  12. Rob de Rebel

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    Hello Gents, first time for me on this forum. I plan on spreading the "word"

    1st comments on brass N scale, I have mixed results with brass some run great, some ok, some badly.
    I had two Oriental limited RS2 that run like they should. Nice speed range, zero to about 65 mph. Now someone is going to say they won't run with anything else. Not so they run very well with my Lifelike engines GP20's, Fa1's.

    Topic #2 Reducing speeds in N scale motive power.
    I think its about time we had engines with scale speeds. Just for everyones info there are companies working on this actively.
    Lifelike is currently leading the pack on realistic speeds. Kato and Atlas has yet to catch up. Anyone interested in having scale speed N scale should contact other forums and
    put the request in for better speeds.
    Case in point, my FA's and GP20 from Lifelike
    run very well and switch well too. Throttle range is from 3 mph to about 70 mph at 12 volts. I dont know why there are people happy with the zero to 200 plus mph rail guided slot cars, but the time to change is now. Those interested contact me via email and contact the big three companies on their forums or emails and let them know we are not satisfied.

    Rob de rebel

    ps hello Squirrelkinns
     
  13. rsn48

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    Rob,
    I thought that was you....the scale speed gave it away. I thought I know only one Rob who has a thing about scale speed. Since DCC is the only thing that really allows MUing, you can just tone them down with the decoder speed stabilization program.

    Welcome to Trainboard...see you in the Atlas forum. I just read your post their about MUing.
     
  14. atirns

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    Hi Rob, good to see you here. I hope you start also putting in your advice and info into this forum also!

    Mike Anktowiak
     
  15. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Hello Rob, a warm welcome to Trainboard [​IMG]

    I have seen the amount of space taken on the Atlas forum about scale speeds. I do not see it as a problem. Just don't turn the knob so far - easy [​IMG]

    Seriously, it is not worth any aggro. Especially as DCC is getting more widely used.
     

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