BNSF not proud of their "heritage"?

Dash Dec 7, 2000

  1. SuperC

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    Althougn i understand braskas point,i still feel that the current conglomeration of paint schemes that are BNSF today are what make this a truly interesting as well as colorful road to observe,photograph and track. No was more heartbroken than i when i found out that the most beautifull as well as notible paint scheme in t he world, ATSF`s Red and Silver Warbonnet was to be no more,but this is a result of progress and now we all ATSF, BN SP&S, Frisco, GN, NP and CB&Q fans have a road that is Bigger,Newer,Stronger and Faster. Yes we are BNSF, and we are BNSF 4 Life !!
     
  2. Dash

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    BNSF's first color scheme was Heritage I. I can't say why they decided to go Heritage II on the wide cab models. I do know that the BNSF 700 series is painted in the old warbonnet color scheme. My theory for this is that SF already had them on order, and GE had tons of SF paint left. The SD75s lettered for BNSF were like that too, and used the old Santa Fe font for the numbers. I have no explaination for BNSF 4700s that are warbonnet, but I think I will stick to the same theory. I kind of like the concept that the wide cabs have a different color scheme than the standard cabs. The only wide cab HIs are the 900 and 1000 series C44-9Ws, and also the BNSF SD60M that VMV mistakenly painted for Heritage I.

    Cya down the line!

    Dash
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  3. Maxwell Plant

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    AMEN!

    I'm a ATSF fan first, BN and it's family's next and a BNSF fan 4 life!

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  4. Mike

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    Sorry Dash, by I also agree with the consensus. I am still a big fan of BN (I love the green and black paint scheme, it's one of my favorites). But nothing can last for ever and its time to move on, BNSF is here, there is nothing we can do about that. So I think that we should look at the new paint schemes that BNSF has put out and enjoy them. [​IMG]

    Mike
     
  5. Maxwell Plant

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    Welcome to the Boards Mike! Are you just a railfan or do you model also?

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  6. Dash

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    BNSF is a company, and i do understand their wanting to paint everything in their colors, but......

    When you see 1 heritage II dash 9 in every locomotive consist it gets kind of old. I enjoy seeing a variety of color schemes in a consist, and a variety of locomotives. Dont get me wrong, I love C44-9Ws, but I am just afaid BNSF will be like Union pacific. They haven't changed their color scheme since....
    The wings add variety, , but otherwise they are basicly the same!!!!!!!!!!!

    My main point was that all the unique locomotives that I still need to get a picture of I am missing!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cya down the line!

    Dash
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  7. Mike

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    Thanks for the welcome maxwell plant. To answer your question, yes I am a railfan and yes, I also model. Unlike you I don't model N scale, HO all the way! [​IMG]

    Mike
     
  8. Maxwell Plant

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    Nothing wrong with that, Amigo! [​IMG] Freelance/Proto-Freelance or straight Prototype, we have forums for all and all scales too! We're funny that way... [​IMG]

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  10. Dash

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    Just a correction toward scott:

    Some early 4700s are warbonnet

    For example:
    Warbonet 4704

    Cya down the line!

    Dash
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    [This message has been edited by Dash (edited 23 December 2000).]
     
  11. Craig Martyn

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    You know, I like all the schemes! [​IMG]!

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  12. SSW9389

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    4700-4719 are in Warbonnet colors.
     
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  14. Dash

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    BNSF 4700-4714 are indeed "still" in warbonnet. When BNSF got them, they were In Warbonnet, and Santa Fe never owned the Dash 9s in 4700s and 700. There are some differences between SF Dash 9s and BNSF dash 9s. The most obvious is that the BNSF ones say "BNSF" on te long hood. BNSF Dash 9s have 4 windows on each cab side, similar to EMDs wide cab window style, while Santa Fe Dash 9s have GE's conventional 3-window cab. The Santa Fe Dash 9s have 5 steps, similar to the C40-8Ws. As far as I know SF is the only company to have purchased this 5-step version of the Dash 8. BNSF Dash 9s have the conventional 6-steps and revised front and rear handrails found on most Dash 9s. BNSF 745, and some other 600-799 Dash 9s have been repainted into Heritage II. Some early 700 Dash 9s have Santa Fe on the cigar band, while most have the initials "BNSF" on them. BNSF SD75Ms also differ from Santa Fe SD75Ms. The Santa Fe units have "Santa Fe" written on the long hood, and have the patched number on the cab with "BNSF" written below. Santa Fe SD75Ms retained their same number, but with an 8 added to the front. For example, SF 211 became BNSF 8211. BNSF SD75Ms had BNSF written on the long hood, and early BNSF SD75Ms had their numbers on the cab written in SF's style font. Santa Fe SD75s were patched with BNSF's style font. Santa Fe B40-8Ws and C40-8Ws are kept in the same numbering plan, and several B40-8Ws have been relettered for BNSF, haveing BNSF placed on the long hood. Santa Fe C40-8Ws # 808, 812, and 814 have been relletered for BNSF, with #814's font being thinner and taller than #808 and 812. #822 has been repainted into Heritage II, and look similar to the Dash 9s at first glance. Dont be fooled, this is purly a Das 8. Santa Fe GP60Bs are also in the same numbering plan, and I believe some hae been reletterd for BNSF. GP60Ms are also in the same numbering plns, and some have been relettered for BNSF, and some have just had BNSF placed in small letters under the number. Most remain as Santa Fe got them.

    Well, theres all the info I know on Warbonnet BNSF units! Feel free o tack on additional info!

    Cya down the line!

    Dash!
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  15. QTRAIN

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    Sorry Dash, in response to your post on 12/20, you stated to the effect that the "heritage" scheme was the first BNSF scheme. No. Technically, the BNSF had 2 loco schemes at first-- the "Vomit-Bonnet", and the experimental SD60M that was painted with a different scheme on each side for the crews & personnel to vote on. In the meantime, while the voting decision was being reached, the EMD released red/silver units with the "BNSF" on their sides & noses; hence why the warbonnets had the red "BNSF" billboard lettering on their sides (i.e. SD75I's & 75M's for one...); and some of the BN cream/green SD70MACs had the green billboard on their sides-- qualifying these as the FIRST "BNSF" schemes. The heritage (Pumpkins) came a little later.

    .....Thanx 4 listenin.....Q
     
  16. tunnel88

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    Well the only comment i can add is, when is someone going to offer an excellent GE wide cab thinwall kit? [​IMG]

    Sorry, i just had to throw that in!
     
  17. Dash

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    Neither the BN, SF, and experimrntal schemes are OFFICIAL BNSF schemes, but if you did want to count those schemes, you might as well count the Dash 9s dilivered in primer grey too. Other people have different oppinions, but I dont count experimentals as BNSF color schemes, and as far as I know, have no official names. As for the Cream/Green and Warbonnets delivered with BNSF initials, I classify them as BN or SF color schemes.

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  18. Mankind

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tunnel88:
    Well the only comment i can add is, when is someone going to offer an excellent GE wide cab thinwall kit? [​IMG]

    Sorry, i just had to throw that in!
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    Kinda off-topic with this one...but what the hey! [​IMG] Hi-Tech Details would be the most logical source for more GE cabs, but reportedly the owner has been disappointed with sales of his GE parts, and hasn't rushed to make a bunch of new stuff; I guess there aren't a whole lot of GE modelers out there. Hopefully this will change with the release of the HO Atlas B40-8, and even more so if they do the B23-7 in HO, too(both of which are models owned by BNSF..I guess that gets us back on topic [​IMG] ).



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  19. QTRAIN

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    Dash.....HUH??? On 12/25 you stated in so many words that the Heritage (Pumpkin) scheme was BNSF's 1st scheme...I replied later & said it wasn't (the Vomit-bonnet was B 4 that). NOW, on 12/30 you say YOU don't count that scheme...Now, last I checked, that locomotive is still VERY ACTIVE in that paintjob (as repulsive as that seems), qualifiying it AS A TRUE BNSF LOCOMOTIVE. So the Q SEZ: "Whether YOU like it or not, FACTS IZ FACTS -- VOMIT B 4 PUMPKIN, and THAT'S the way it iz!!!!"

    ......Thanx 4 listenin'......Q
     
  20. Alan

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    I agree with Dash, that the first scheme that BNSF settled on was the Heritage 1. Whether you count experimental or test schemes does not really matter [​IMG]

    The fact that there are still huge numbers of pre-BNSF paint schemes around, just makes life more interesting. Get pics. of them while you can [​IMG]

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