BN BN4052 Cabless

Flash Blackman Dec 22, 2005

  1. Flash Blackman

    Flash Blackman TrainBoard Member

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    BN4052 cabless passes the BN computer heat sink in Denver, Colorado near Caboose Hobbies.
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    I think we had a model thread on this unit earlier.
    Maybe there was more than one BN cabless like this?

    [ December 22, 2005, 08:59 AM: Message edited by: sapacif ]
     
  2. HemiAdda2d

    HemiAdda2d Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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  3. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    These seemed to be really popular. But only for a brief time. Was there a shortcoming, that made them obsolete? Other than lack of a cab.....

    :D

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  4. doofus

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    The first order of these units looked just like a GE without a cab. The second order had the dynamic brake grids moved to the roof section just behind and above the electrical cabinet. I believe the first body style was 4000-4052. The second style was 4053-4119.
     
  5. doofus

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    I don't think these units ever did what was promised they would do. They were derated to 2300 hp at one time because of failures in the prime mover. They had a 12 cylinder engine in these units to try and reduce fuel consumption.
     
  6. Triplex

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    If I recall, the problem was that their traction mototrs wore out too fast. Too much power for only four axles at that tech level? But regular GP40s and B30-7s didn't have such a hard time... Maybe it had to do with them always being used as boosters for 6-axle units, like in the first picture?
     
  7. chessie

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    I think part of the reasons B units didn't catch on (in general) is their lack of flexibility. You can't lead with 'em [​IMG]

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  8. Doug A.

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    Harold, those B30-7A's were pretty short, so one of those in front of an SD40-2 couldn't have been any worse visibility-wise than a long-hood-forward NS unit!!!! :D

    Of course, they didn't have ditch lights, so that's probably why they couldn't lead. ;)
     
  9. BoxcabE50

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    Sounds as though there were accumulated shortcomings. Well, I'm betting someone will try the idea again. Some day.....

    :rolleyes:

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  10. Doug A.

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    Actually, Santa Fe already did try again. They bought 23 GP60B's.

    With the proliferation of 6-axle units, and the increased cost of locomotives in general, I doubt that this will be tried again.

    That is until they are satellite controlled and don't need seats. [​IMG]

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  11. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I fear that such an event is closer than most of us realize.....

    :(

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