Aaawwh fudgesickles. Batch of cabbeese photos.

John Moore Mar 7, 2006

  1. John Moore

    John Moore TrainBoard Supporter

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    Whats wrong with this picture?

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    Okay how about this one?
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    Well then how about this?
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    If you haven't seen it yet then this should be the capper.
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    And the winner is?
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    The middle one. Hmm some cabbeese in a motherly way?

    Nah just the effects of solvent cement on cheap plastic after about two years. What I found when I opened my SP&S storage box this afternoon.
    And oh yeh. I was shaking a bottle of black paint and felt a familar feeling in my hand again.

    Hmm things are back to normal.

    [ March 07, 2006, 06:07 PM: Message edited by: John Moore ]
     
  2. chooch41

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    There is no track underneath them????
     
  3. Flash Blackman

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    The two cabooses on the left need to be weathered.

    No endrails on the center caboose..another Gold Medal Model kitbash!! :D

    Chooch41...welcome to Trainboard!! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    [ March 07, 2006, 07:05 PM: Message edited by: Flash Blackman ]
     
  4. John Moore

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    Okay guys you must have jumped in while I was wrestling with a couple of the photos in the edit mode. Try again. Weathering is the least of my issues and the one had the end rails come off while photographing.
     
  5. Flash Blackman

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    John:

    I see how the shells have warped. Just clamp them to the frame and glue. I would use ACC as a debonder will let you remove the shells later.

    Do you mean a solvent paint caused the warping? Or a solvent cement?

    Anyway, the warping is slight enough that I think it could be fixed.
     
  6. WPZephyrFan

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    I see a litter of baby 'beese in your future!
     
  7. N_S_L

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    It's cabii (rhymes with Octopii) not Cabeese [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  8. WPZephyrFan

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    hhhhmmm...well, Octopii have 8 tenticles and "cabii" have 8 wheels, so... [​IMG]
     
  9. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Well, us older folk know a certain gaggle of flying fowl are gEEse. Not goosii. So a bunch of cabooses are therefore cabEEse. We were raised with that terminology. Modern historic revisionism is [​IMG] .

    And if you don't like it, [​IMG]

    :D

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  10. John Moore

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    Look again not only did the sides bow out but the whole body has turned into a humpback. Quasimotoboose. These were the MP bay windows that I laminated thin styrene wood siding on about two years ago. I've had issues in the past with some projects using solvent cement but the problem normaly shows its ugly head in less than a week to not over a couple of months down the road. The hump even extends into the roof which is part of the base sides and not a separate unit. Not much else to do at this point but salvage and scrap since I wont get the humpback out. However the underframe could be the basis for another try with my own sides from scratch. Then again I'm thinking about using a 36 foot boxcar as a starting point as the 1 to 1 road did. i
     
  11. Fotheringill

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    Chooch41- Welcome to Trainboard. It was getting lonely being the only wiseacre around here.

    Now, now, #4000- Aw Fudgesickles is pretty strong language, there.
     
  12. John Moore

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    Well the collection of Quasimotobooses has now grown to 4 with my kitbash of a WP wood outside braced bay window being added to the quasi collection and a possible 5th contender in an NP bay window job done with the same lamination as the SP&S units. Minimal hump back on that enough so its still in the car case.

    Now two more Model Power bay windows still inhabit the roster. The Milwaukee unit has only the ribs laminated on the sides and shows no sign of distortion as does a basically unaltered UP unit with only paint and decals.

    And no folks, no exposure to sunlight or heat since the other cabbooses (aw heck don't like the plural form so its back to cabbeese) and SP&S motive power have been in the same storage box system with no ill effects, plus they are stored in a temperature controled room.

    That zeros back on the solvent cement used for the lamination and the type of plastic used in the cabeese as the culprit. Oh dang it and fudgesickles anyhow. I really wasn't looking for another project and was happy enough with my little SP&S bay windows, until MT decides to finally make a decent bay window, either in board or plywood bodysides. And double fudgesickles I put a lot of work into the WP baywindow unit cutting bracing etc.

    Well lets see I need a single sheath wood box car about 36 foot. Hmm cut and fit to the recyled bay window chassis with steps and end platforms, didn't spot any problems with them, build a bay section to graft on each side, use MT cabbose end rails and ladders.
     
  13. Grey One

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    Um two suggetions:
    1) Turn them into employee housing and office space
    2) Create a pseudonym on Ebay and sell them as extra special rail somethings
     
  14. Flash Blackman

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    What ever the reason, the humpback problem is a bad one. I have some cabooses I did not use and just put them "out to pasture." So, not all is lost.
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    I wonder if the warping occurs or is more pronounced only on the laminated cars because they cars are stored? The non-laminated rolling stock did not warp.

    [ March 08, 2006, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: Flash Blackman ]
     
  15. GM

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    Originally posted by Grey One:

    2) Create a pseudonym on Ebay and sell them as extra special rail somethings.


    Be sure to list them a a very high price! Someone will buy these I'd bet on it!

    LOL ;)

    GM
     
  16. John Moore

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    Well those are some options for sure. The storage was not probably the issue taking into account the length of time between the building and the developing warpage. And the warping appears in different degrees warp factor 1 thru 6 on the units. Hmm Mr. Zulu check with Scotty and see if the ion drives are right alligned.

    Hmm the Ebay factor. Lets see unique one of a kind design from the SP&S shops of an early aerodynamic roof design caboose, only four left. Also was developed for that heavy Northwestern snow load factor. The end slopes helped shed the heavy wet snows off the ends. Hmm starting bid $50 ea.

    Then there is the option of a few small stations up on the logging branchs, and a crumpled hulk at the bottom of a long trestle. Or the sandwich filling between two 2-8-8-2 pushers. Explains the hump back look when the first guy suddenly applies the brakes..
     
  17. BoxcabE50

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    Bet plenty! And bet often! Because you'll be a winner!

    :D

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