Return of the Southern Belle colors?

friscobob Dec 27, 2006

  1. friscobob

    friscobob Staff Member

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    http://www.mexlist.com/temp/sd70ace.jpg

    This is an artist's concept of a proposed new paint scheme on the ES44ACs being painted in Mexico for KCSM (Kansas City Southern de Mexico). From posts I've read in the KCSNotes group, the chances of seeing this scheme may be good.
     
  2. friscobob

    friscobob Staff Member

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    Here's a URL to a pic of several new ES44ACs KCSdeM is getting:

    http://n691lf.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=594934

    Yes, they're in primer colors, but they'll be painted in the so-called "retro-Belle" scheme. Lettering on the sides will be "Kansas City Southern de Mexico" (KCSdeM is the new name of the TFM line KCS purchased).
     
  3. slambo

    slambo TrainBoard Member

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    Are they being painted by WSOR in Horicon? WSOR did a marvelous job on the UP heritage schemes, and I'd love to be able to see these new units in my neck of the woods before they head south.
     
  4. Ed M

    Ed M Passed away May 2012 In Memoriam

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    No one seems to have definitive information regarding the paint shop, but the rumors are that they will be painted in Mexico.
     
  5. love the a&m railroad

    love the a&m railroad TrainBoard Member

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    cool !!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. chessie

    chessie TrainBoard Supporter

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    That will be quite different! Are they having Borg envy? :confused: :D
     
  7. friscobob

    friscobob Staff Member

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    Everything I've read indicates that these units will be painted in Mexico (San Luis Potosi was a site mentioned).
     
  8. friscobob

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    "Borg envy"? Hey, at least KCS freights actually spend a lot of time running, unlike Unlimited Parking trains.............
     
  9. chessie

    chessie TrainBoard Supporter

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    I meant Borg envy, in that they are bringing back "Heritage schemes" (for one reason or another). :D

    Harold
     
  10. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    I can't wait to see these running on the old "Macaroni" between Rosenberg and Victoria after KCS finishes rebuilding it. I keep hoping BNSF will bring back the Warbonnet.
     
  11. friscobob

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    Gotcha now- actually, I was pulling your leg on the UP crack (which is based in truth).

    Not sure why, since this railroad was conservative with its paint schemes (red w/black roof, all-white, and gray with yellow striping), they would come out with something so flashy. But then again, the Panamanian operation has F40s painted in Southern Belle colors, IIRC. And before anyone reminds me about the variations on the Belle colors on the F-units, I've seen the pics- actually have a few in my collection.

    ALso, Haverty was the guy who helped bring the silver & red Warbonnet back to Santa Fe...............so perhaps this is also his idea.
     
  12. BNSF FAN

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    Could be that KCS found that they could get this paint job done as cheap in Mexico as the gray scheme here in the US. Would make good business sense to go flahy if you could do it at a reasonable price. No matter the reason, these units sould really be a site to see.

    As for the Unlimited Parking comment, that is just too funny!!!! :D :D :D LOL
     
  13. friscobob

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    Unless they venture north of the Rio Grande like the gray TFM diesels, we'll never see 'em Stateside. Still, the concept of a quartet of GEVOs running up Rich Mountain in the summer is rather exciting.........
     
  14. Ed M

    Ed M Passed away May 2012 In Memoriam

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    I guess that I would expect them to be found NOB just like any other old KCSM power. But I'm looking forward to seeing them down here.

    Regards

    Ed
     
  15. stewarttrains98

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    Well I read on another list today that on the new SD 70 ACE or what ever they are getting that they will be in the old KCS colors similar to the F units where restored a few yrs back. Then that post also stated that all locos when repainted would be put in that scheme as well. It is the black red and yellow. But I am not sure if this info is rumor or fact. Just take a look at the FEC and that ARR look a like scheme they have now on their new SD70's.
     
  16. BoxcabE50

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    I'd love to see them go to the older black scheme. Classy! Hope it's not just a rumor.

    :thumbs_up: :teeth:

    Boxcab E50
     
  17. BNSF FAN

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    Has anyone heard anything about when units might start getting painted in this scheme?
     
  18. Ed M

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    Nothing yet. The Mexican rail forums are all abuzz waiting too. There have been several of the locomotives in primer already seen south of the border, but no definite word yet on where or when the painting will occur.

    Ed
     
  19. BNSF FAN

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    If primer units are already being spotted, let's hope that the time for painting is close at hand. Hopefully, KCS will issue some sort of press release prior to the first unit being completed.
     
  20. friscobob

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    Actually, that black on the F-units and pass. cars was Brunswick green, which is so dark that at first glance it looks black. I'm referring to the old scheme- I'm not sure if the dark color on the "executive" Fs is black or Brunswick green.

    Those Big Aces should be arriving on the property around fall or later this year.

    And here I was accustomed to "ghosts" on Rich Mountain all this time, followed by gray................
     

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