SP Round Window Passenger Cars Ben and Russell and all tuned in, So, If I put these cars into a Rock Island consist they'd almost be correct? Ben, Yes, I believe the round windowed passenger cars built by Rivarossi for Atlas are the same cars in your picture. I added a very poor thumbnail of my two RR-A passenger cars. It's time for a better Digi., camera. I appreciate your assistance with this research. .
It is amazing how many roadnames have been "milked" out of a handful of car designs, some for 40 years or more. Makes what Kato has done recently even more appreciated. And what Micro-Trains might do with its heavyweights. BTW for Rick, I never found any instance of heavyweight chair cars painted in Daylight Red and Orange. Colors adopted in 1930 for the all heavyweight Daylight were light Pearl Gray paint and gold leaf and black lettering. That is a good-looking train also with its mostly Harriman roof cars all pulled by a P-10 4-6-2. That era also deserves consideration by some manufacturer. Ben
Two Tone Grey Passenger Cars Ben, this would be a fun train to model. If only I could find the steamer to go with it. I appreciate your response. Somewhere I have a picture of a very early Coast Daylight, heavyweights in the SP Daylight Colors. Still looking and will advise if, when and where I find it. At least I thinks...I do! Thanks again for your input.
Rick, yes a good running heavy bodied Pacific and a good running Northern, without red or orange paint, would make my day. But it's beginning to look like my day won't come. The last gasp of passenger railroading seems to have taken center stage. Ben
Ben and of course all tuned in, Looking back: Regarding your comment about the "The last gasp of passenger railroading...center stage". I do hope your wrong but just in case you are right...it would be a sad day indeed. Looking at what I have... It's interesting, at this point, I have a lot of the things I wanted almost 40 years ago. And, still.... there are a few more things, I would like to acquire and and operate on my layout... before retiring to the great unknown. I may not have much of a choice other then to be happy with what I have and find ways to make it all work. Not the answer I want... This aging gracefully thing just isn't cool. Must think young! I keep thinking there must be youngsters coming up behind us who would appreciate and want these finer trains running on their layouts. But, me thinks you may be right. As Elmer Fudd used to say "Tha Tha That's all Folks" I hope he's wrong!
I'm currently working on my P-10, based off of an MP Pacific. I'll hopefully have the valve gear done this week so I can finish out the boiler soon. It has given me a mountian of troubles since the original boiler did not have the correct taper. I ended up sanding down the entire MP boiler so a bmann light mountain shell would fit over the top with a bit of sectioning in key places. The skyline casting came off of a concor GS-4 shell, it needed a bit of rework, but the general idea will come accross when I'm done. The P-8 and P-10's fell right between the light and heavy USRA pacifics with regards to dimensions, so this was about the best course of action for a kitbash. Here is my ultimate goal though
SP Steam, Now there is a mixed combo of SP passenger cars. On Charles Smiley's Video, SP Vintage West, is a picture of the HW coach and baggage combination. The train pictured, would be combined with the San Joaquin Valley Daylight out of Oakland headed South, connecting at Tracy. A interesting operation to model. Yep, I would like to see this locomotive put out by Kato. Nice picture!
If I remember right, SP only had 4 streamlined P-10's the rest remained unstreamlined. I think if Kato would put one out, I would definatly buy more than one. A couple P-10s, a couple P-8's, hmmmm
How do you plan to model the 120-C-6 tender? I looked at the Bachmann Vanderbilt but it is way too long. I am bashing one out of bits and pieces of an old Con Cor S2 Northern tender and Plastruct tubing.
I shortened the bmann tender. I have some buildup photos in my railimages. I have to work on the oil tank since the SP tender had a flat top on the tank wheras the bmann has an angled upper portion. here is a shot of the shortened one
News Update or is that History Update? Charles Smiley and Pentrex produced a number of Vintage Videos with Regard to the Southern Pacific Lines. After watching the videos again and again. Fast forwarding, pause, rewind and more pause, slow motion and careful listening to the commentator I discovered a pre 1941 or WWII San Joaquin Daylight, in the Orange and Red pain scheme, pulled by a GS type of locomotive and lettered Southern Pacific Lines. It resembles the coast daylight in consist including the articulated coach, kitchen and dinning cars. The GS locomotive pictured, is in the Daylight paint scheme and lettered Southern Pacific Lines. The lettering in small print, "Southern Pacific Lines", and could be clearly seen and read in the top red stripe on the tender. Fitz shared a picture of his one foot to the one foot scale GS4, with the same paint scheme and lettering. I also found heavyweights in both the standard style and Harriman style in the Daylight colors. Everything from coaches, diners, baggage and mail cars, bar and lounge cars. It makes sense that SP's, HW coaches can be found in the daylight paint scheme as both trains the Coast and San Joaquin daylights are coach trains. I respect the time many have given to make up a homemade roster of one foot to the one foot scale train equipment. You have to appreciate the time, effort and research put into the project. However, that doesn't mean it is all inclusive or exclusive. Lucky for us, the brotherhood of model railroaders, there is available to us, vintage film made into videos or DVD's. Otherwise we would be up a 2% grade without a locomotive on the point. Thanks to all who participated here. Special thanks to Ben and Russell. Mr. Lathrop's work was very helpful as well. Your input is valued above all others. I appreciate your time and research including the PM's illustrating various equipment oddities. Have fun!
Digging up an old thread...does anyone have pictures of a Cotton Belt heavyweight passenger car painted in Daylight?
In the photos I have, I find that mostly head end heavyweight cars were ever painted in Daylight colors on the SSW. They usually were followed by Daylight painted Ozgood Bradley (American Flyer) coaches.The last car in the first image is probably the heavyweigh business car Dixie or Fairlane, but could be a heavyweight coach.
