A few years ago, I picked up a "conductor's hat" from a model railroading distributor in Eastern Washington. I took it to the railroad I volunteer on to show it off. One of the other members, however, commented that it seemed more like a bandmaster's hat than a conductor's hat; comparing it to the conductor (and brakeman) hats on the railroad reinforced that opinion, so I set this in the closet for a few years (though I pulled it out once for a costume). Recently I've been looking for a new conductor's hat online, and I'm noticing a number of "vintage" hats do seem to have the same shape as this one. So I'm wondering--can anyone tell if this hat is an actual conductor's (or trainman's) hat? There are no railroad markings on the inside so far as I can tell; the buttons on the outside say "FD" and don't seem to correspond to any railroad I've heard of. IMG_1396 by SVRailroader posted Jul 29, 2017 at 11:27 AM IMG_1397 by SVRailroader posted Jul 29, 2017 at 11:27 AM IMG_1398 by SVRailroader posted Jul 29, 2017 at 11:27 AM IMG_1399 by SVRailroader posted Jul 29, 2017 at 11:27 AM
Cool hat. Might it have once had a wreath-shaped pin attached to the front? Looks like it might have. https://www.lafra.org/lafd-history-the-lafd-is-130-years-old-a-timeline-of-the-first-50-years/
Looks similar to RR used hats. Unfortunately such hats were used by non-railroad entities. Police, fire and.... I am wondering if "FD" could mean "fire department?"
I'm starting to think that's the case; it looks fairly similar to some of the hats in acptulsa's link.
The brass buttons give it away as a Fire Department uniform hat. My department referred to these as "Bell" Hats, although I have no factual reason why. Conductor and Trainmen hats were very similar, sometimes differentiated only by trim buttons and hat badges. Larger fire departments had their initials on the trim buttons, eg. CFD instead of FD as in your example. Railroad hats would have brass trim buttons with railroad initials and symbol. Boris
You got it. FD is Fire Department. Typically hats would start out generic in style and then dependent on the buyer, they would be customized to suit the customer.