Just blew a dcoder in Reverse--what did I do wrong?

Pete Nolan Jan 23, 2005

  1. Pete Nolan

    Pete Nolan TrainBoard Supporter

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    OK,

    Worked very carefully on a LL FA-1 install. Wired the bulb with white and blue wires, careully insulated. Put it on the programming track. Great! Put it on the track, and it ran great in forward. Hit reverse--pzzzt! Now it won't read on the programming track.

    What did I do wrong?
     
  2. Pete Nolan

    Pete Nolan TrainBoard Supporter

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    There are clearance problems, which I thought I took care of with a bit of grinding. The other three identical installs went well. I'm guessing when I reinstalled the shell on this one, I pinched something. Why it blew in reverse, I just don't know. Perhaps yellow wire touching something?
     
  3. rray

    rray Staff Member

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    I have done the exact thing in one of my Z loco's 2 times already. Both times while in reverse. I'm stumped, because when I buzz the wiring, there is no short.

    Decoders blow when the Gray or Orange wires are shorted to anything else. I was able to fix the last one by replacing the 7509 Hexfet chip (the one where the Orange wire is soldered to) on my TCS M2 decoder, but I have not looked at the Digitrax decoder yet. It's probably a transistor too.

    The reason they blow is because of a switching circuit called an H Bridge which is usually made of 4 transistors or FET's which are wired in a bridge arrangement that looks like an "H" in the circuit. Transistors are fired in an order required to drive our motors forward or reverse, but you can only fire in a certian order or Pffft! you blow a FET.

    It was the hardest soldering I have ever done to date, but I mamages to fix the first decoder, and I will be extra careful to look for shorts before popping another one.

    Bottom line... Orange or Gray wires must never short to anything. ;)

    -Robert
     
  4. Powersteamguy1790

    Powersteamguy1790 Permanently dispatched

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    Pete:

    The decoder blew because of the "stall factor". The gear mechanism caused the the decoder to blow when it was put in reverse.

    I had this happen on a LL 2-8-8-2 when it was put in reverse. You need a decoder with a higher amp rating in that loco.


    Stay cool and run steam.... [​IMG] :cool: :cool:
     

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