Just seen this on another forum, cant see atlas getting worried... http://www.all-railroads.com/nmp15.html whoppit
The list price is certainly lower than many recent releases by other manufacturers. If they give a good dealer discount, these might underprice Atlas. Beside, if you want one painted PRR, they have the only game in town . Frank
Looks like they have them in SP too, though it's probably another fantasy paint scheme. But still, theoretically it could reach a price point where I would break down and pick one up.
I now have a nice kink in my neck! Aside from the fact that I quit buying anything CC made, years ago, I can't see Atlas having any troubles selling their version. Boxcab E50
I really, really need a PRR loco produced 20 years after PRR bit the dust. I agree, this is sort of sad.
To be fair, their 2-10-2 was a huge winner, it is one of the best running steam locos I have ever seen in any scale, and others I have shown them to agree. That being said, they just can't get it right two in a row. That pseudo-warbonnet version is a complete fantasy, and a butt-ugly one at that! Makes a barf-bonnet look good by comparison...
Verne: Did you solve the minor problems you had with the Con-Cor 2-10-2? If I remember correctly it was running well out of the box and then developed some problems. Stay cool and run steam.....
Well I can admit to owning only two CC locos. The first was a cow calf set that I purchased new and the other is a used Alco C-636 that suffered from the poor wire connection to the truck pick up wipers. Ended up finding another to get the parts to make one. It will, however, pull the rails off the ties, with its power, mainly due to its cast metal heavy frame in that big diesel. Far to modern for me however, so it sets in storage. Basically just acquired it as part of an SP&S Alco collection at the time. I have managed to resist getting the current Alco C-424, 425 however. Way back in olden times however I do hand it to CC to have the rare lightweight passenger cars available when few others did. Although they were only modeled after one style, with everybodies roadname/paint scheme plastered on them ala Concor. I do remember the excitement stirred when they finally came out with a full baggage car in heavyweight. Up until that time you either went with brass, or cut up two combines to get one bashed full baggage. I do remember that they never made NP so I had to order undecs. and they never seemed to be able to have the advertised GN in stock. Was a big first order for me back then when I splurged an overtime check on ten cars, all heavyweight baggage. Came to about $110 with the shipping and taxes back then. Wasn't too long after that they came out with the full baggage in the lightweight version and I placed a similar sized order again. Concor managed a hit with them, although limited to a specific type, since nobody else had a full baggage back then. They came out back when with the first S-2 Northern. Why base it on a type and road that had only a few is something that still puzzles me, when GN's S-1 was a better choice and opened some options to the Penssy folks with the Belpaire boiler. The logical choice would have been the the much bigger, and first on the block, NP Class A types. That would have opened the door to the CB&Q, SP&S, and at least a dozen other roads based on that locomotive. While initially a big hit it soon sputtered due to poor performance, later corrected with the more recent release. Still haven't bought one. Seems to have been a thing with Concor in the past to come out with a loco that saw only service with one road in its type and configuration and then want to plaster any road name on it to market it at a fairly steep price. You were basically left with purchasing a mechanism in the wheel configuration you wanted, hoping it would be a runner, and then going to work on the body to make the right loco for your road. Hopefully with the change occurring at the helm of Concor we will start seeing some releases that do not include a GS-4 passing itself off as an NP A-5, a Hudson trying to be a GN engine, and yet another in a heavy mike's clothes trying to be a GN 07-08 class Mike without a Belpaire boiler. And on the traction motor side a UP turbine as a GN unit, a PA wearing green and orange and Rocky, a U-50 as a GN unit, and PAs and E-8s and 9s in A and B units wearing GN paint. I now turn my spot on the soapbax over to the next gentleman.
1) Web page inexcusable 2) Ridiculous and ugly Warbonnet 3)MT Couplers? Nice, I wish Atlas and Kato would get in line. I have read the descriptions of how to convert. I don’t want to spend my time doing it. I might buy one just to support encourage them. Maybe the rest of the loco is just as good. 4) 25yo: I own 2 ABBA sets (with one powered unit each). They are OK. 5) 25yo U50s, they are nice. I like em. 6) New: I own 1 Cow Calf that is mediocre but worth the $30 since in is in GN Olive/Orange 7) New: I own 1 U50 and 1 Gas Turbine. I like em and would buy more if I could justify it. // I do not have very high standards so don’t buy based on what I say. /// Atlas and Kato run better and the detailing is finer If anyone wants pics of the various engines let me know
Does this mean they will climb a 100% grade? These are not the same as the SW1500 BTW. It has an angled cab roof. I have a couple.
I take what I can get. To me, about everything is a "Kit" anyway because I invariably take it all apart and rebuild it into something else. For a long time the Kato built engines they sold were the best out there and I have a bunch of them yet. Some of my favorite engines that I run for hours when our club sets up, are an S-2 Northern and a Hudson. Off course they have been heavily kit bashed and are hard to recognize. The Northern is now a GS-1 and the Hudson is a streamlined Pacific. I have a fleet of CC passenger cars that won't quit. Of course they have also been bashed and tweaked to get them to run reliably.
I've got to wonder whether or not people have lost the ability to read the English language or if they just don't bother to read at all. I received the Con-Cor e-mail flyer about Jim Conway's SEMI-retirement. it clearly stated that Con-Cor was not closing up shop but he would reduce the number of new items introduced annually by at least half. I guess converting semi-retirement into full retirement was just wishful thinking on those who dislike Con-Cor. I've been in N scale for nearly forty years and although Con-Cor and Bachmann are not my favorite suppliers, I've also learned that occasionally they come out with something quite well made. Now, if it were an SW1500, I'd be interested, as the AN owned eight of them.
