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BC Rail King Apr 29, 2000

  1. Danimal

    Danimal TrainBoard Member

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    Hello Alan,
    Sorry it took so long to get around to answering your query. These are Seagrams comments on the subject, and I most heartily agree! Smoooth,very smoooth. "Created in 1939 by Seagrams to mark the visit of Queen Elizabeth and King George VI, Crown
    Royal is the standard by which other whiskies are judged. Superbly rich and mellow, it
    represents the masterful blending of Canada's finest whiskies."
     
  2. Alan

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  3. Alan

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BC Rail King:
    Freight, yuk!

    Passenger all the way Alan [​IMG]

    Happy Railroading!

    Dane N.

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    Dane, Dane, Dane - Freight is what interests people in American Railroads. Freight trains are awesome!! Your passenger trains are light years behind Europe!!

    We rode 'The International' both ways between Toronto and Flint, Mi. and it was a very slow, boring ride, in those awful Amfleet coaches. Only one train each way per day between major cities. Here the frequency would be half-hourly, or hourly.
    A long way from our high speed trains, or the excellent 'Eurocity' trains in continental europe.

    I would not travel 12 hours on a plane to see passenger trains, but freights - yeah!!

    (The Toronto GO trains look good, though [​IMG] )



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  4. Colonel

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  5. Danimal

    Danimal TrainBoard Member

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    It has alittle to do with trains Alan, we were discussing the best way to enjoy our own private car. I believe our answers apply!
     
  6. Maxwell Plant

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Harron:
    [​IMG]True:LL F40s have NOT been improved yet, hope they do it soon. [​IMG] Not True: (yes they are the only Amtrak passeneger loco producer in plastic). Model Power has an F40, it sucks! There are also some E's and F's painted in Amtrak, but that was for the dark ages. [​IMG] I have one, only pulls about ten cars, no flywheels. Good for a small train, but not much like they run today. Can't be, mine would pull three dead Kato Loco's and twenty passenger cars! [​IMG] You might want to have it sent to the shops if that's all it will handle. [​IMG]

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  7. BC Rail King

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    Alan,

    Freight is cool (I just prefer pass. alot) but there is so much history and "FUN" behind North American passenfger service. I love watching the Canadian role out of a cold winters night and watching the ground as some one flushes the toilet. The thought of the fact that those same cars have been across the country more times than Alan has posted on Train Board.com! Those F40PH-2s that are struggling to keep moving, the freindly engineer giving me one short while I wave out the car window with a huge smail on my face, ah, Canadian Passenger Trains at there finest!

    And then there are our excursion trains. The Royal Hudson is alot more intereseting that cruddy old freight! The steam, the kids with huge smiles that spread light across the land that the Hudson traverses. The Carriboo Prospector gliding its way through the nooks and cranies of scenery across BC, the exhaust rushing out of the stack and you starting to think about the hole in the ozone layer that that is causing!

    Oh the joys of passenger Railroading! [​IMG]

    Take a Train!!

    Dane N.

    PS- Alan, all Amtrak sucks [​IMG] You need to take Via and BCR! Or at least the AMTK Cascades! [​IMG]

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  8. mtaylor

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alan:
    Thanks Danimal, if it is whisky, it is OK!! When we stayed with some folks in Michigan several years ago, he got me hooked on Rye whisky, I now drink more Rye or Jack Daniels, than Scotch!!

    (Not much to do with trains, is it?) [​IMG]

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    Not true.
    Trains deliver the grains and other ingrediants to the brewerys and stills. Also trains transport the finished prooduct to the cites for the enjoyment of many. The BNSF has a "beer train" outside of Denver for the Coors brewery. I can see it now...a whiskey train [​IMG]
     
  9. upguy

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Harron:
    LL F40s have NOT been improved yet, hope they do it soon (yes they are the only Amtrak passeneger loco producer in plastic). I have one, only pulls about ten cars, no flywheels. Good for a small train, but not much like they run today.

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    LL F40's might work for me since I plan to use them on the Pioneer that went through eastern Oregon. Most of the time it only had about 4 superliners behind one engine.
    I see in the June Model Railroader that Walthers has an F40 in HO. Are there any plans by Walthers to do one in N?
     
  10. BC Rail King

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    I doubt Walthers will start doing engines in N scale anytime soon. It could happen but if they were going to do it I don't see it for the b=next year or 2.

    Happy Railroading!

    Dane N.

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  11. Alan

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    Come to think of it, I have some N scale beer cars, and grain cars, so all I need is a brewery and a distillery [​IMG]

    Actually, I am at the moment drinking Napoleon Brandy - I do like variety [​IMG]

    No, I am not a big drinker - all things in moderation [​IMG]

    Dane, I imagine the Royal Hudson is a great sight, and I would love to ride a dome car, but you have to realise that passenger trains are the norm, here, they run every few minutes. It is freight trains we are short of.

    By the way, when we rode 'The International' from Toronto to Michigan, the Via staff on the Canadian section were very unhelpful and a bit rude, but the Amtrak staff who took over at Port Huron were extremely helpful and friendly. Though I am not saying that it is always thus.

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    [This message has been edited by Alan (edited 03 May 2000).]
     
  12. UnionPac2000

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    My passenger operation consists of 8 various Concor smoothside cars in UP livery. Pulled by either a pair of Kato PA1s(A&B), a pair of Lifelike E8s(AA), a pair of Lifelike E7s(A&B). For a hoot I pull them with my Concor/Rivarossi Bigboy. Am currently having my Kato F7s(A&B) repainted in UP colors. Does anyone know if the UP ever used any F7s for passenger service?
     
  13. BC Rail King

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    Alan,

    The Hudson is out for the season, again!!! [​IMG]

    You are right, some Via people are complete jurks, but alas that happens on every RR. Frankly, even though I don't admit it too my self, AMTK does a much better job at handleing people, and there trains.

    BC Rail does a pretty good job, the staff on the Carriboo are ussually kinda cranky though.

    ahh, see Alan you said exactly what I wanted you too! "Passenger Trains are every few minutes" and also said freight was rare. It is the opposite here, so that is why I try to have a good amount of passenger service! I work on your logic, just the other way around!

    Happy Railroading!

    Dane N.



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  14. JohnC

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    Hi,

    I have

    2 Minitrix Corrugated-Sided Santa Fe Stream Liners (really old 30+ years).
    2 Rivarossi Heavy Weight Coaches, PRR and SF
    4 ConCor BUDD RDC cars - eastern roads, B&M, BA, Reading, New Haven.

    I figured I'd put the "older" equipment and the heavy weights in my rail museum located in the old mill district. The tourist operation would run the old equipment behind my Minitrix Li'l Donkey.

    Because my layout will be based in the early to mid 80's, I will be able to run the RDCs. At that time, the B&M had the contract from the MBTA and was running mixed roads of RDCs - anything from CPRail to the Reading. Many of these were depowered and were running as coaches behind FP40s and GP9s.

    John
     
  15. Maxwell Plant

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    I'd just like to point out that the Life-Like F40PH is an excellent runner for a non-flywheel drive loco. [​IMG] It will also haul ALOT MORE THAN 4 to 6 cars. [​IMG] I've pulled all my passenger equipment plus all of a friend of mine (about 30+ cars) with one F40 and it didn't break a sweat. I think you guys that have an F40 that will only pull a few cars have the ModelPower unit, [​IMG] not the Life-Like.

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  16. Alan

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    John C, how do your Con-Cor Budd RDC's run? I saw one at a model railway exhibition last Saturday, but it just stood in the depot all day, so I assumed it did not run well, if at all!! Until then I did not know that any Budd's had been produced. Are they scale length?

    A good quality Budd RDC by Lifelike, Atlas, Kato would be a good seller, I am sure - Dane would have lots!!!

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    A good quality RDC would be nice, but I have discovered something nice. It doesn't take Rocket Science (PS- I kinda enjoy that) to put a Kato or Atlas Motor in. I have fiddled with a freind of mines RDC who did put an Atlas (?) motor in. It ran pretty well. To make it look better, and more similar to BCR (even though it is Phase I) he added smaller horns, and cut away the stair well, and reatached it to the frame. He also boddy mounted the couplers. It look really good, although his shade of blue is off ALOT [​IMG] Now all we need is a Royal Hudson, Consolidation, C40-8M, CRS20, and the hole consist of the Pacific Starlight Dinner Train!

    Remeber, get your Royal Hudson* tickets today!

    Dane N.

    *= The Royal Hudson is out for atleast 6 months, the Hudson will not be in service for any runs this summer)

    Happy Railroading!

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  18. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alan:
    John C, how do your Con-Cor Budd RDC's run? I saw one at a model railway exhibition last Saturday, but it just stood in the depot all day, so I assumed it did not run well, if at all!! Until then I did not know that any Budd's had been produced. Are they scale length?

    A good quality Budd RDC by Lifelike, Atlas, Kato would be a good seller, I am sure - Dane would have lots!!!

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    Alan,

    The always ran very light, and tend to want to go off the tracks! I need to weight them down with something. That's probably why they sat in the station all day. They were of scale length - about 80/85'.

    Your're right though, if Kato or Atlas, (same model?), would produce some they would be great. My old Kato/Atlas RS-3's used to run flawlessly out of the box.

    I'm not sure about Lifelike. I had some bad luck with their equipment in the past - poor tracking, jumping, can't negotiate turnouts, etc. I thought that ModelPower/Lifelike used to oem their locos and stuff from Minitrix. I tend to put them in the same catagory as Bachmann - cheap locos and a high price.

    Best,

    John
     
  20. Maxwell Plant

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    Not true John,
    Give the new LL loco's a try. The GP20 and the Sw1200 are super! Talk is all the LL unit's will receive the new drives. LL loco's have always been made by LL.

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