Wil's Slide Box

LegomanBill May 8, 2017

  1. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Where is my time machine? :)
     
  2. LegomanBill

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    BN Coaches at CB&Q's Denver shops, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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    Colorado & Southern SD9 841, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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    MKT F3A 69A, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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    Rio Grande F7A 5764, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family photo)
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  4. BoxcabE50

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    I am curious as to why the Katy F was in Denver? Leased power? Or?
     
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  5. HemiAdda2d

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    I wonder if it was sold to Rock Island? This was the beginning of the end of Rock Island and they might have been accumulating power that was serviceable.
     
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  6. BoxcabE50

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    Wish I still had all of my RI books. Your theory is very possible. I do recall they did get units from such as the D&RGW, C&NW.
     
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  7. LegomanBill

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    My guess would be under lease possibly, as that photo was taken at the joint C&S/AT&SF facilities in Denver. However, I wouldn't know why either of those roads would have a need to lease MKT power. I don't think it was a purchase however, as I've seen photos of the same locomotive taken at a later date in the 1970s still under Katy ownership.

    Rio Grande GP9 5954, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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    An odd couple of C&S SD9 825 and a Rio Grande F-Unit at Denver, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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  8. acptulsa

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    According to this site...

    https://www.thedieselshop.us/MKT.html

    ...that one was sold to Precision National (PNCX). But it doesn't say when.

    Or Precision National's either. The Rock might have leased it, but they got into Denver over the UP. I guess that wouldn't keep them out of the other roads' yard, though..?

    Somebody could have done a joint operation with the M-K-T.
     
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  9. BoxcabE50

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    Didn't the RI get their ex-C&NW Geeps via PNC?
     
  10. LegomanBill

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    Rock Island and Rio Grande power mingle at North Yard in Denver, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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    A short Santa Fe passenger consist, headed by F3A 34C is at BN's coach/diesel facility in Denver, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)[​IMG]
     
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    Santa Fe F3A 34C, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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    A set of Santa Fe F-Units, headed by F3A 32C, at Denver, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family photo)
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  12. BoxcabE50

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    Looks like an old rotary plow?
     
  13. LegomanBill

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    A C&S SD9 moves a pair of Santa Fe F-Units with a short passenger train at Denver, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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    UP F9B 523B, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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  14. r_i_straw

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    Looks like an F3b with the chicken wire and 3 port holes. I believe the number is 2523.
     
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    Well, the three portholes mean little, but the chicken wire isn't something that would have been retrofitted to an F-9. And yes, 2523B to be exact.
     
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    Quite possibly, as the C&S rotaries were numbered in that range.

    According to the UtahRails UP Diesel roster, this is in fact a F9B that was rebuilt from a F3B, hence the F3 bodystyle. And the correct number is 523B as no F-Units were numbered in the 2500s on the UP roster.

    Great Northern GP20 2009, ex-GN 2009, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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    BN GP40 3004, ex-CB&Q 174, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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  17. r_i_straw

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    OK, that makes sense.
     
  18. acptulsa

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    That's certainly hard to argue with. But that certainly looks like another number on the side door. Perhaps EMD painted over a 9, and it's bleeding through the new paint?
     
  19. LegomanBill

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    I can't argue with you on that point as it definitely looks like there was a number there. Seeing as they were rebuilt at EMD, it could be possible they mismatched the doors (and put on in the wrong place) and had to repaint it.

    BN U25B 5414, ex-GN 2514, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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    BN U33C 5706, ex-GN 2536, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family photo)
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    BN E7A 9911, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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    BN E7A 9920, Denver, CO, 1970 or 1971 (Jordan family)
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