What does this cost?

oldrk Nov 10, 2005

  1. oldrk

    oldrk TrainBoard Supporter

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  2. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Well, as this is a Union Pacific engine, and a question about prototype railroading, it might receive a better response in one of those forums. So I'll move it over to UP for a try there.

    :D

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  3. Ed Pinkley#2

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    Better figure about 1.5-2 million each brand new.
     
  4. Flash Blackman

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    A Boeing 737 weighs 137000 pounds; costs about 30 million US$. That is about 220 US$ per pound. How much does this GE type engine weigh and how much does it cost per pound?

    I thought the engines weighed about 300,000-350,000 pounds. Kilos...136,000-159,000.
     
  5. JASON

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    Flash I just luv it when you start talking weights & air craft!
     
  6. N_S_L

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    2 bits?
     
  7. doofus

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    EMD demo weighs 408,000 lbs. Price range 2.5 million.
     
  8. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Contacted a friend who is involved with these types of events. EMD SD70ACe= $1.9 million each.....

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  9. friscobob

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    Not sure of the paint cost, but if it's Dulux, it ain't cheap!

    Overall, it's a nice scheme, and carries the Air Force One colors quite well.
     
  10. friscobob

    friscobob Staff Member

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    Here's some more info about this diesel:

    Beginning on October 21, 2005, Union Pacific 4141 will be placed on display in College Station, Texas across from Kyle Field on the campus of Texas A&M University. Photography is encouraged. Lighting will be best in the afternoon from 3:00 p.m. to dark as the locomotive will be pointing to the southwest. The 4141 will remain parked and available for viewing until November 17th at which time it will be removed from the spur and prepared to haul the Bush Library excursion train from College Station to Dallas on 19-20 of November. After the excursion trip, UP 4141 will enter regular service between Ft. Worth and Houston with frequent trips through College Station. After several months, it will be released for service in Texas and then across the UP system.

    The best part- "photography is encouraged". And they say when the best sunlight is!

    Now to pass that courtesy along to the special agents, local police, rent-a-cops, etc.......
     
  11. Flash Blackman

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    6.12 US$ per pound.

    I am surprised it is that heavy. I always think of the million pound steam engines, Big Boy, Allegheny, etc. as being the standard. It used to take 4-5 engines to weigh a million pounds, but no more. These things are really heavy! Does an SD90MAC weigh more than 408,000?
     
  12. Robbman

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    N&W had their SD45s weighted to 420,000lbs...so it's not a new thing.

    NS' Crap9s weigh 415,000 fully loaded.


    CSX went an extra step and had their SD70MACs and some AC4400CWs weighted to the maximum allowable loading for a six-axle unit... 432,000lbs.


    For any given unit, adding weight is the easiest, cheapest way to gain tractive effort.
     
  13. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    6.12 US$ per pound.</font>[/QUOTE]Using the weight given above, and the figures I was given from "inside," I come up with less than five cents per....

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  14. Flash Blackman

    Flash Blackman TrainBoard Member

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    Well...2,500,000 divided by 408,000 is ??

    Dollars per pound? Did I do this wrong?
     
  15. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    The figure I was given is $1.9M. This is from someone who works professionally with these types of transactions.

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  16. doofus

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    Alaska RR paid 2.5 million for each of their SD 70MACs. I was just using that as a starting point.

    BNSF SD 70 MACs weigh in at 415,000 lbs. The BN C 30-7s weighed in at 420,000 lbs.
     
  17. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Doofus-

    As the 4141 is an SD70ACe, that's where the price quote I used came attached. Via a friend who has particpated in purchasing some down here in the lower 48.

    The SD70MAC may indeed cost more. They do weigh more than the 408,000 of an ACe version. Plus, for service in Alaska, they probably have added features, (more $$$), for harsh weather conditions. And I'd not be surprised with added delivery costs?

    :D

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  18. doofus

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    It's refreshing to know that something new does not always have a higher price tag than a previously produced product.
     
  19. Robbman

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    Didn't the last order also come equipped with HEP?
     
  20. doofus

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    Alaska's last eight units were HEP equipped.
    4317-4324. The first 16 were not. the 1.9 million figure was for the first 16 units.
     

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