There, There...we go! Did I do that one right. LOL I stand corrected and have a much better understanding. Thanks.
Because I think their marketing team is void of any marketing sense. They keep pushing HO scale and revising their HO kits. but not N. Apparently they don't believe N scale is a modelers scale. Even the new passenger cars, why not have the grab irons included or at least put dimples in to make the drilling easier. They just don't care. (in my opinion) maybe the new CEO at Walthers will see the shortcomings. R
Rick, are you ready for history lesson #2? cool: "Hear, Hear" was originally "Hear him, Hear him" and got shorten in the 1700's People mistakenly believe it is "Here, Here" because that's what Website and Word Processing Spellcheckers change it to.
No I model N and am continually frustrated by Walthers medicore ventures in N scale. When they put out kits, they are incomplete, not like the HO kits where they put in the "extras" that they leave out in N. There are so many kits in the HO side that would do us N scale modelers much better. The docks, the car barge and float, The auto series. Just to mention a few, How about the bridges???? We can surely use quite a few of those! But alas, we apparently don't need/or want these items in N scale, (or so it appears is what Walthers "thinks")The ratio of HO kits to N is like 5:1 or more like 6 to 1. Emailing them apparently falls on "deaf" ears. R
I should have worded that better. I meant to say that I wonder what scale the new Walthers CEO models.
I agree with Rob's. statement, "deaf ears" their new ethanol plant (HO scale) uses a logo that belongs to a company in Nebraska and they are using some fictitious name on it. I sent them an e-mail asking why they did not use the correct name that goes with the logo and I have yet to receive a reply in over a month. If the kit was produced in N scale I would purchase one for my layout and put the correct name on it.
English History 101 Since, I'm a mixed bag of Native American, English and German, and I do embrace my heritage. I was glad and proud when you corrected me. Thanks for the history lesson. I hear you!eek: Have fun!
All together now, "N scale, N Scale we want N scale" We must take our rant, raging, and second class citizenship to the front door of Walthers. No more will we be the step child. Threaten to Boycott, threaten a moratorium, threaten to turn our backs....wait....if they aren't making any N scale how is a boycott going to work? Me thinks this is an effort in futility. Good discussion... but futile in it's finality.
Obvious answer--Walthers doesn't want to pay licensing fees to the owners of the plant for the use of their logo.
Rob, I personally know that there would not be a cost associated with using the correct name that goes with the logo if they would have ask (oh well).
What in the WELL! To no one in particular and everyone in general. Now I'm incensed (if that's correct). Dissed off and here it comes. What, what, what did he say? Look guys and gals. Why is it you are depending on Walthers....anyway? Have you ever heard of PVC pipe, magazines and newspapers with advertisements for a particular ethanol or fuel oil industry or whatever it is you want and creating your own specialized custom built plant? Never mind the availability of computers, assorted programs and printers. Hint: Take the papered advertisement and find a way to glue it onto your plant and waalaa you have your own specialized plant, built up by using your own hands. Don't they call that scratch-building? You know I love a good discussion but there is a point where it turns into...well...bore-ing. I know you have me on ignore again and that's ok with me. But honestly who needs Walthers? I don't. I could care less what they do for HO...or N scale for that matter. It don't matter to me, where their loyalties lie. I buy very little from them to begin with. There are plenty of kits available, PVC pipe and other small types of pipe fittings. There's no reason for you to moan over a kit that becomes a look alike on every body else's layout. Let's get busy and make something of our own volition. D@## it, (a huge dirt or concrete fill that holds back water,) that's how the hobby got started in the first place. I don't give a rat's molasses, about Walthers building an ethanol plant. I prefer to see oil and fuel industries on my layout. Ok, so some of you do. Well, write letters, make phone calls, swamp the switchboard. Make sure the office is piled high with letters.....if you can. baffled:confused:eek::mmad: I'm done. Have fun!
I primarily model the 50/60's, what's ethanol? Isn't there plenty of oil to last us hundreds of years?:tb-biggrin:
Hear, Hear, Barstow Rick! While I have only scratch built out of necessity, I have done a lot of kit bashing. Who says your ethanol plant couldn't have elements of the oil refinery, parts from other kits, etc. Who says Walther's Paper Mill or Superior Paper needs to be ONLY a paper plant? And so on. In many ways, a building is a building. Add a sign and move on! I actually think my best looking industries are ones where I combined buildings to suggest expansion over time, or re-purposed the kit as something else. One way or another, we have more structures from Walther's than we could have ever expected. If they make one more, someone will complain that they need to make yet one more. Look at this as an Opportunity to do some original modeling! Why does Walther owe it to you to share your passion for N scale? They do what sells.
1. N scalers are more literate than HO people. Hence, we post more. 2. There is a higher percentage of "serious" N scalers than HO people for those in each scale. 3. The money is in HO, not N. 4. We can complain all that we wish, but it is a lot better than it was 30 years ago. 5. My main gripe with everything is that nobody, but nobody, currently makes a printer that can do white decals.
I just read where a longtime midwestern brewery was later converted to ethanol production for a time. Makes sense to me. Quite true in this case.
Apparently ALPS printers are still produced in Japan. They are a bit expensive but I can remember when ordinary dot matrix printers weren't much cheaper, we've been spoiled by inkjet printers becoming cheaper than buying new ink cartridges. I've been keeping an eye on this guy in case my old MD1000 dies, it's paid for itself over the years. There's also this guy here in Australia that always has cartridges in stock. ALPS Printer Supplies
