Using HO on an N Scale Layout (M I CRAZY!)

ten87 Dec 2, 2000

  1. ten87

    ten87 TrainBoard Member

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    So my structures don't look like the structures on everyone else's layout, I'm a big fan of kitbashing. I'm constantly looking for ways to alter the kits that I can find, and have even used pieces from battleship models on my structures.

    I've got an area on my layout with heavy industry, and was looking for something new to fill a gap in the hardscape. I happened upon an HO scale Walthers Cornerstone Grain Dryer (933-3128) and found that by replacing the HO scale ladders with N scale details, it makes a pretty good piece of industrial machinery.

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    I'd be very interested inlearning what other models you've used, regardless of the scale, for your N scale layouts.

    Ed Harrison


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  2. ten87

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  3. moose

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    Here's the powerplant that will be a customer of my railroad. It is an HO Walthers kit.

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    Photo Copyright Wm K Walthers, Inc. and borrowed from their website
     
  4. moose

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    I forgot to add, the Pikestuff modern HO buildings work well in N Scale land too [​IMG]
     
  5. ten87

    ten87 TrainBoard Member

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by moose:
    Here's the powerplant that will be a customer of my railroad. It is an HO Walthers kit.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Do you have it yet? I looked at it but wasn't sure I could get the door openings down to size. The windows are certainly generic enough to change scale. It definately has it's roots in the Superior Paper Compnay kit. That one has both buildings for $70 in N Scale. I can get the HO scale, power plant at clearance for $28.

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    Ed Harrison


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  6. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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  7. ten87

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alan:
    ...using HO ones is a great idea to give more bulk to an industrial scene [​IMG]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I finished building and weathering the grain dryer last night. This is what it looks like in the morning sun. The N scale loco is just to give you an idea of scale.

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    Ed Harrison


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  8. rgn1

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    Hi all,

    I plan to use many structures that were designed for HO. Sorry Watash! [​IMG]


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  9. moose

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    Well, I don't officially have it yet, but it will be under the christmas tree, or so the wife says [​IMG]

    As far as door size, but be a tad big, but I can work with it and kitbash a little if I have to. For what I want to model, the sheer size alone is worth it, and I saw for about 30bucks here too [​IMG]

    By the way, what did you use to weather the grain dryer, really turned out nice!
     
  10. ten87

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by moose:
    ...what did you use to weather the grain dryer, really turned out nice!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Thanks for noticing! [​IMG] I'm pretty proud of the way it came out.

    The model is cast in a pearlized silver styrene, so I masked the "sheet metal" areas and painted the rest of it black. The base was painted with Testors Model Master Camoflauge Gray (a great concrete color). I use the stuff for sidewalks, curbs, footings, etc.

    The weathering was done with Bragdon Enterprises Weather System. This product is made from real rust and other weathering agents that have been ball milled to a particle size over 100 times finer than chalk and blended with a pressure sensitive, dry adhesive. I used 3 colors of rust, plus soot. Great stuff!

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    Ed Harrison

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  11. Art

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    Well the Federal Furnace Lines is going to try kitbashing a wee bit and use some HO on our layout. Guess only time will tell as to the results.
    Art
     
  12. ten87

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    [​IMG]

    I updated the photo of the HO scale grain drier with this new phot. Unfortunately, I gave it the same name as the old picture, so you can't compare the two. The two tanks next to the grain drier are HO scale too. I'm very pleased with how it looks on the layout.


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  13. slsffriscokid

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    Hey There!

    Are you crazy for using HO scale building kits on a N scale layout?

    Absolutely NOT!

    I know IM a foreigner here, but HO modellers use N scale building to " force " relief depth upon their layouts. Placing a N scale home on a hillside, approximately 1-2 feet from the track forces the eye to realize depth. Using trees to envelop the scene can really create a wonderful perception of distance.

    So, if you can do N to HO, why not HO to N. Railroads handle massive equipment everyday that make the railroad cars look like tinker toys. I once had a load come into ACCA Yard in Richmond that made the infamous Paris Gun look like the model IHC puts out in its army set.

    Go for it! It'll add, not detract...

    Just my $1.98 worth...( inflation ) [​IMG]

    Randy
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  14. watash

    watash Passed away March 7, 2010 TrainBoard Supporter In Memoriam

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    Let's watch it there rgn1!! We may have to have a meeting and re-write the rules and that is going to just make the NMTA go bonkers! (That's the National Model Tantrum Ass ociation). I would like that very much! Well, OK you guys go ahead and have your fun, I'll look the other way, but if My HO Big Boys scatter soot all over your N scale deezuls, you'll know where it came from after you dig out from under. Funny thing, the flanges on your wheels are bigger than the flanges on mine! How do you keep those little thingys on your rails? Do you use bricks for weights?

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  15. Gregg Mahlkov

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    Watash - at least in N scale I don't feel obligated to install operating brake rigging on my cars, or working cab doors on my locomotives. I left HO in 1968 because no matter what I scratchbuilt, someone came out with a plastic kit of it six months later! (I do install lift rings, windshield wipers and PRR trainphone antennae on my N scale Diesels though.)
     
  16. Alan

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    Greg, I too like to add as much detail to my locomotives as possible, but I leave the freightcars alone! But the ones I have with etched walkways do look great . . . . . [​IMG]

    Regarding structures, I barely have enough space on my railroad for N scale structures, let alone HO! But I still have fun fitting them in, even though most of them are building 'flats' [​IMG]

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  17. Craig Martyn

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    VERY nice Ed! The place where the track, ballast and raod come together looks very good! That is a hard thing to do.....and yours looks great! I would love to see more pictures if you have them!



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  18. ten87

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Craig Martyn:
    VERY nice Ed! The place where the track, ballast and road come together looks very good! That is a hard thing to do.....and yours looks great! I would love to see more pictures if you have them!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Thanks Craig. Believe it or not, that's Kato Unitrack. The road is styrene, but it still needs stripes and weathering.


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  19. watash

    watash Passed away March 7, 2010 TrainBoard Supporter In Memoriam

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    Gregg, our customers and "Big Shots" at clubs are the only ones I know who have been pickey about soopur deetails on rolling stock! I have never been critical about a guy's super details. I figure he does what he can afford to do or have done, or wants to do himself. My personal feeling is; if it runs well, the couplers work well, and the valve gear doesn't bind up, I am not going to tempt fate any further! HA! I have worked too many hours on someone elses's prize, and have yet to recieve even a thank you for work well done, just the payment. Quite often I have heard about the wonderful job "he" did at detailing his engine. That's why I quit a couple of associations, clubs and no longer make displays for companies or museums. My dad felt the same way. I'm not bitter, I'm just tired of the rat race, so I am thouroughly enjoying building my own layout, and I do compliment good craftsmanship when I see it.

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