1. StickyMonk

    StickyMonk TrainBoard Member

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    <font color="336633">I would like to add a frisco U25B to my roster, but I need good photos of both side of one loco, also which of the Stewart Hobbies phases is the correct type?

    thanks
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  2. FriscoCharlie

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by StickyMonk:
    <font color="336633">I would like to add a frisco U25B to my roster</font><hr></blockquote>

    <font color="ff0000">Ahhhhh! You're developing taste Matt!!! See George Gelwoods page at http://www.dnaco.net/~gelwood/other/slsf.html for some pictures of U Boats. There are also a section on them in the book Frisco In Color</font>
     
  3. friscobob

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    Another good source of U-boat info is Lou Marre & John Baskin Harper's book "Frisco Diesel Power" which came out in 1983 from Interurban Press.
     
  4. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I've got that one too. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Charlie
     
  5. StickyMonk

    StickyMonk TrainBoard Member

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by E-8:


    <font color="ff0000">Ahhhhh! You're developing taste Matt!!!font>
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    <font color="336633">Well as I am now modeling the period just before and after the merger I should have at least a couple of Frisco units, the other will most likey be a GP38-2, but I want to concentrate on the U25B first.

    A couple of questions.

    1. Did any of the 4 Hi nose units make it to merger day?

    2. That black livery, did any last in that before merger day?

    sorry to ask such basic questions about Frisco...

    Thanks fot the help [​IMG]
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  6. throttlejock

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    Matt,
    I lived thru that period on the Frisco and I can say that the high nosed Ge's were long gone before the merger. I never saw any around in the late 70's when I was there. My book shows they were retired on 9/28/77. Now I can't say for 100% but I don't think there were any engines that were in the last manderan and white paint. I saw only 2 or 3 not in that scheme when I worked there. As far as running these beast, they were the least liked things we had on the Frisco. My first knuckle I got running was with 3 of the Ge's on a monster train. I was a student engineer and this train was eating me up. After 5 hours of fighting I gave up the throttle to my trainer who 15 minutes later got 2 knuckles in one move so I didn't feel so bad. Almost all of the Ge's were assigned to Lincoln after the merger which was good and bad for us in Tulsa and other former Frisco points. We started seeing really odd old units that some time had us stymed at the roundhouse on how to set up the brakes. The Frisco was a really modern railroad almost all of their engines were newer with 26 brakes except some of the old switchers. When we started seeing SD-24's and old GP-9's with 24 brakes we just were a little perplexed. The mainstay of the Frisco fleet was the GP-38,-2s. The SD-45 was also one of the primary units, 2 of these was usally more than enough for most trains on the Frisco. In the last years of the Frisco we got 25 GP-40-2s and 8 SD-40-2s. The GP-40s were used mainly in sets of 4 and were the standard consit for most hot trains. I could go on and on and love talking about my Frisco! Like has been said before if you want to model and know the Frisco get Louis Marres book Frisco Diesel Power. If I can be of any help let me know I spent alot of time at the diesel shop on the Frisco.
     
  7. Alan

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by throttlejock:
    I never saw any around in the late 70's when I was there. My book shows they were retired on 9/28/77. <hr></blockquote>

    I thought the merger was in 1970 :confused:
     
  8. FriscoCharlie

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    Add 10 years Alan. December 1980 was the official beginning of the green plague.

    Charlie
     
  9. friscobob

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    None of the 8 high-nose U25Bs survived to the merger, having been traded in to GE for eight B30-7s (the first of that line, by the way). IIRC, all of the surviving U25s were in Mandarin orange & white by M-day.

    The September 1999 issue of Trains (the all-GE issue) has an interesting article by Jeff Schmid on the high-nosed U-boats Frisco had. Between that article, and Throttlejock's experiences (tell us more!), you get a slight glimpse of how it is to run one of these beasts.

    BTW Throttlejock, where were you based out of when you worked for the Frisco? My folks managed a motel in Afton, OK that was used by Frisco to house its Ft. Scott-Tulsa train crews that changed out in Afton. In essence, the Frisco put food on our table as well (we did get some business during tourist season).
     
  10. Alan

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by E-8:
    Add 10 years Alan. December 1980 was the official beginning of the green plague.

    Charlie
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    OOPS! Yeah, the BN scheme did dull down the Frisco fleet. I like that red and white. [​IMG]
     
  11. throttlejock

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    I hired out in Tulsa as a switchman/brakeman then went into the engineer program in 1980. My class of 5 engineers were the last Frisco engineers hired. We were kind of a special lot, We took the tough Frisco Mechanical, took 2 days then a few months later took the BN book of rules 2 1/2 hours. We were told the funding for our class caim out of some special fund that paid off Frisco programs that were running at the time of the merger. Anyway got promoted in 1980 and withe the recession we spent the next 4 years hostling in Tulsa waiting for a need for engineers. The few trips I made on the locals we did alot of work at Afton but stayed over night in Monett. I remember eating several times at a small diner in I think it's called Farlane next to the tracks just east of Afton. This was the late 70's. My brother still works out of Tulsa for the BNSF.
     
  12. friscobob

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    That would be Fairland. I think I know the diner you were talking about, but it's been quite a while. My Mom & Dad would eat at Lorene's in Fairland (& Mom worked for them for a while). Pretty good food, too [​IMG] . Business-wise, Fairland's the hotspot, thanks to a chicken feed elevator switched out by BNSF- it's just west of Fairland, and was built in the 1990s.
     

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