Sugar Beet Cars Progress

OC Engineer JD Dec 14, 2007

  1. OC Engineer JD

    OC Engineer JD Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I can remember if the plants that made the sugar from the beets shut down or relocated, but thats what ended Beet trains. :(
     
  2. Phil Olmsted

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    Jerry,

    Great work!

    I recall driving through Manteca, CA, on highway 99 in the '50s and '60s. We would all see how long we could hold our breath so we wouldn't smell the aroma from the sugar beet factory (at least that's what my parents told me it was from). It smelled like a combination of cow poop and hydrogen sulfide. Manteca would never be a suburban/commuter town until that odor was gone. It went, and it is.

    Anyone else remember smells like that from sugar beet processing, or did my parents lie to me?

    Don't answer if you feel that I'm hijacking this thread. I'm just trying to get more info on sugar beet processing.

    Thanks,
     
  3. rray

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    Those cars would paint up into real nice NP and SP&S Woodchip Hoppers! :D
     
  4. SP 9811

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    Some beet info. The FRA banned the cars in 1994, because of their friction bearing trucks. The final Betteravia run was made on July 17 1993. That train was made up of the wood and steel cars. The beet trains did still run to a plant in Tracy.
    Heres some shots of the "beets".
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    loaded, being shoved over Cajon.

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    beets at Mojave, east

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    at Lancaster
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    Holly car tag

    Thom
     
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  5. bfc1230

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    Jerry is it hard to find photos of the cars?
     
  6. Espeeman

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    Here's one:
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  7. OC Engineer JD

    OC Engineer JD Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Thats a great shot! :)
     
  8. up1950s

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    Some years ago I made up a cut of cars myself . I used Anise seeds for my beats .

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  9. OC Engineer JD

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    What did you color the seeds with Richie, or is that the natural color? Looks right on. :)
     
  10. up1950s

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    Thats the natural color , with a white glue coating that was applied to lock them in place . I kept these in an open container in the basement for a year before using in hopes that the liquorish aroma would dry up . Never stopped emitting that aroma till I mummified them in white glue upon installation . They are probably too large , but so are our couplers .
     
  11. OC Engineer JD

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    I was thinking of using Celery Seeds.
     
  12. up1950s

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    Give it a shot on some scrap first . Post some shots , this is something that should be known what is best for us to use . I will take a better shot of my anise and post them in a bit . :)
     
  13. OC Engineer JD

    OC Engineer JD Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Here's some of the celery seeds.....
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  14. OC Engineer JD

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    It looks to be smaller in size then the Anise seed....
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  15. OC Engineer JD

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    I was thinking of getting a bowl and mixing dirt and the seeds together. Then seperating the seeds and seeing what that did for the color. But overall they are both really close. :)
     
  16. HemiAdda2d

    HemiAdda2d Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Jerry, your skills almost void the three-foot rule. On your railroad, it should be the three-inch rule! Your detailing is impressive! Freestanding grabs on those beet racks?
    Sam's Club may sell celery seeds in the big bulk containers. You might need a pack or 2 for that unit beet train, though!
     
  17. up1950s

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    You're right Jerry , and yours look better .
     
  19. OC Engineer JD

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    Richie, did you glue a piece of card board or something near the top and then glued the seeds to that?
     
  20. Flash Blackman

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    I used celery seeds, too, as I felt they were closer to N scale size. I added a reddish wash at the suggestion of some Belmont Shore members. They said the beets had a slightly reddish hue. Modified Concor hopper:
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    Dimi Trains Gondola:
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