paint replacement for model masters flat clear.

RGW1 Oct 26, 2021

  1. RGW1

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    I really like testers model masters flat clear in the jar. when i want to give a faded look to a loco / car i just spray with less paint with a air brush and it looks some what weather before adding the weathering paint.

    My problem now the it is no longer produced ( just order 3 jars , getting hard to find ) who makes something with the same quality's in a acrylic paint?

    What have you tried?
     
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  2. BigJake

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    Bonus points if available in a rattle can... (probably not).
     
  3. gjslsffan

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  4. BigJake

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  5. gjslsffan

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    Not being a paint expert, an acrylic seems to me a water based paint. but nooo.
     
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  6. Shortround

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    Not water based. But, water soluble. Which means it can be cleaned up with water based clean up.
     
  7. BoxcabE50

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    Well, I just reached over and grabbed a bottle from my paint drawer. It is "Polly Scale", a very well known name, from Testors and is indeed acrylic. It states, right on the bottle "Water Base".
     
  8. RGW1

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    I like shooting waterbased for ease of clean up and lack of fumes. I do use a homemade paint booth. I even have mixed brands ( I know should not do this) The model masters flat seems better than other brands of paint it is more flat Hate to see it go.

    I have had good success with acrylic / water base paint.
     
  9. BigJake

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    From https://www.liquitex.com/us/knowledge/what-is-acrylic-paint/

    WHAT IS ACRYLIC PAINT?
    Water-based acrylic paint is composed of pigment particles dispersed in an acrylic polymer emulsion. There are three main components in any acrylic paint - pigment, binder and vehicle:

    1. Pigment - pigments are granular solids which give paint its color. They are milled to a tiny particle size and do not dissolve, but remain suspended in the paint. Pigments can be organic, inorganic, natural and synthetic. They have little or no affinity for the surface to which they are applied
    2. Binder - a binder is the substance that keeps pigment in place after the paint dries. Acrylic paint has acrylic polymer as its binder and this forms a film after the water has evaporated
    3. Vehicle - this refers to the part of the paint that carries the pigment and binder. Water is the vehicle for water-based acrylic and when combined with the binder, it creates a polymer emulsion. Once the water leaves the system via evaporation or absorption, the paint dries, creating a stable clear polymer film full of trapped colored pigment particles
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    Thinning
    Acrylics should never be thinned with more than 25% water. Why? Too much water will upset the balance and spread the acrylic polymer too thinly so the molecules can't reconnect properly to form a stable film. Instead you should dilute with an acrylic medium, which is essentially the same as the paint but without the color pigment. This way you are adding more of the acrylic/water emulsion to keep the formula and film stable.

    The more you know...


     
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  10. RGW1

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    I thin my paint with Windex or generic Windex , but not too much. I also use to for cleaning my air brush
     
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  11. Grey One

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    @BigJake Thanks! That is very very helpful.
    @ Everyone, Thanks, I needed this thread big dtime.
    I really should check 'The Inspection Pit' more often. //sigh.
     

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