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hb2301 Aug 20, 2010

  1. hb2301

    hb2301 New Member

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    After 30 years, I think I'm finally going to start my model railroad this winter. Since it's my first, it will be fairly small but will use DCC. I grew up in Springfield, MO with a Frisco track right across from house. I plan to model the modern era, probably around the turn of this century. Since I grew up with Frisco I WILL have Frisco equipment. I'm not going to pretend that the mergers never happened but I am going to pretend that BNSF appreciates tradition and either left or painted locomotives in the colors of some the original railroads. BNSF happens to be my present day favorite so I think I'll be getting the best of both worlds.

    I do have a question for you right off. I've spent a lot of time reading but am still really confused about modern rolling stock. For instance, I can't figure out which box cars or tank cars would be appropriate for my era. I look in the catalogs but can't figure it out. Obviously the wood cars are too old but there's a lot of steel cars out there that are probably too old as well. Can anyone enlighten me or direct me to a good source?

    I look forward to learning on this forum. Thank you for making it available.

    Joe
     
  2. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Joe-

    Welcome to TrainBoard!

    There are some Frisco fans and modelers aboard. I am sure you will spot them, or hear from them as time rolls along.

    As to freight cars, it can be confusing. Especially with original owners selling or leasing to another operator, their used stock. I know it ahs been discussed, but do not recall how much in detail. A search of our message archives might help some.

    Boxcab E50
     
  3. subwayaz

    subwayaz TrainBoard Member

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    Welcome aboard Joe. As far as the proper cars to run in the Turn of the Century; I'm no expert but one nice part about Trainboard is there will be an expert around in short order so standby.
    I would think most of the Closed Hoppers, Gons, 50' Boxcars, 40' Boxes without Roofwalks, and most flatcars would be a good fit.

    Njoy most of all; it's built rite in."

    Glen
     
  4. bravogjt

    bravogjt TrainBoard Member

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    Welcome aboard the TrainBoard!

    Ben
     
  5. jolio55

    jolio55 TrainBoard Member

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    Welcome to the board Joe, you find that there is a wealth of information on this site. Although I cannot answer your questions I am sure someone will chime in shortly!! Congrats on making the first step in any good layout, asking questions!!! Good luck on the layout and keep us posted of your progress!!

    -Joel
     
  6. N-builder

    N-builder TrainBoard Member

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    Welcome abord Joe. The way I look at what the RR is running in the present era is to go to my local rail fan spot and look at what the locos are pulling most any boxcars are 50' today but they are smaller also and most have no roof walks and are a little taller then most older cars for more cubic space the tank cars are also 50' or larger and they are still using flat cars and most of the RR today and in the past are still using the auto racks. So you can get a lot of information just by looking at what the rail roads are running today. I hope this helps. :D :D :D :D
     
  7. BarstowRick

    BarstowRick TrainBoard Supporter

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    Stop, Caution, consider leaving now.

    This website has been known to be addictive causing weird behavior, where grown men end up suffering from childhood regression... playing with toy trains. It can be detrimental to your health. You'll end up discussing the pro's and con's of tight radius curves, turnouts versus switches, DCC versus analog DC, nuts and bolts counting versus toy caricatures. To avoid those sudden brain freezes, (which typically come with eating ice cream but has been known to happen here) or inflating your emotions into out of control raves and rants you might want to consider a different hobby.

    Never mind our engineering types who go on and on and on and on about something that makes absolutely no sense to the rest of us and doesn't much matter.

    I'd think twice about joining up here. These boy and girls are good but we can really twist the facts around and dance our logic all over the place. What you are still here? This might mean you will fit in just fine.

    I'm sorry what was your question....?

    Welcome to TrainBoard and don't say, "You haven't been warned". Grin!

    You are going to like it here I guarantee it.
     
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  8. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    A general rule of thumb is if the cars have roller bearing trucks and the box cars have short side ladders and no roof walks and are at least 50 foot long. Modern tank cars do not have the big domes on top any more either. Just watch the trains that roll by these days and you can get a pretty good idea what is out there. Not too much has changed in the last ten years.
     
  9. MOPMAN

    MOPMAN TrainBoard Member

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    Welcome to the "board". There are plenty of "experts" on just about every subject that post regularly and some of them know what they are talking about LOL. But, you have been warned, don't spend too much time here or you will never get that layout built.
     
  10. Steve Ervin

    Steve Ervin TrainBoard Member

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    Welcome Joe....lots of great help and information here!


    Steve E.
     
  11. H Lee

    H Lee TrainBoard Member

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    Here is a list of web-pages and items on those pages. Most have thumbnail pics and/or links to pictures of the items - it will give you a good idea of what modern cars are available. Doesn't cover all manufacturers or all products. But, should be enough to keep you busy looking for awhile!!!!!!

    N Scale Assembled Boxcars
    Pullman-Standard 5277 Cubic Foot Boxcar

    N Scale Assembled Hoppers
    Cylindrical Covered Hopper - Trough Hatch Version
    Cylindrical Covered Hopper - Round Hatch Version
    4750 Cubic Foot 3 Bay Covered Hopper
    ACF Center Flow 2-Bay Hopper
    ACF 4650 Cubic Ft. 3-Bay Hopper
    Trinity 5161 Cubic Foot Hopper

    N Scale Assembled Flat Cars
    60' Wood Deck Flat Cars

    Red Caboose N Scale Products
    Red Caboose 3 Panel Centerbeam Car
    Red Caboose 3000 Cubic Foot Covered Hopper
    Red Caboose 4700 Cubic Foot Covered Hopper
    Red Caboose 4740 Cubic Foot Covered Hopper
    Red Caboose 4750 Cubic Foot Covered Hopper
    Red Caboose 5-Bay Ortner Hopper
    Red Caboose 73' Center Beam Flat Cars
    Red Caboose Opera Window Beam Cars
    Red Caboose Open Panel Beam Cars
    Red Caboose 62 Ft. Insulated Boxcars
    Red Caboose Thrall Boxcar
    Red Caboose Evans 100 Ton Coil Car

    Fox Valley Models Products
    Fox Valley Models FMC 5347 Single Door Boxcars
    Fox Valley Models FMC 5283 Double Door Boxcars
    Fox Valley Models Pullman Standard 5344 Boxcars
    Fox Valley Models SOO 7 Post Boxcars
    Fox Valley Models Trinity RD-4 Hopper Cars

    Trainworx Products
    Trainworx 100 Ton Quad Hopper
    Trainworx Thrall 86'6" High Cube Auto Parts Boxcar

    Atlas Model Railroad Co.
    17,360 Gallon Tank Car
    17,600 Gallon Trinity Corn Syrup Tank Car
    2-Bay Centerflow Hoppers
    23,500 Gallon Tank Car
    33,000 Gallon Tank Car
    4-Bay 5250 Centerflow Hopper
    53' Evans Box Car
    5701 Grain Centerflow Hopper
    5701 Plastics Centerflow Hopper
    5800/5748 Plastics & Grain Hoppers
    60' Auto Parts Box Car
    Articulated Auto Carrier
    Coalveyor Bathtub Gondola
    Kaolin Tank Car
    Pressureaide Centerflow Hopper
    Thrall 2743 Gondola
    2-Bay Centerflow Hopper
    Thrall 4750 Covered Hopper

    ExactRail - Welcome - The Next Generation Of Model Railroading (TM)
    all of their products

    BLMA Models - Details for the True Prototype Modeler

    http://www.esmc.com/ProdLine1300.html
    http://www.esmc.com/ProdLine1350.html

    Bluford Shops Home
    86' auto parts boxcars two styles

    Athearn
    Auto-Max auto carrier
    30K gallon ethanol tank cars
    33.9K gallon LPG tankcars
    60' Pullman Standard Auto Parts
    Thrall Hi-side Gon
    Bethgons
    Husky Stack well car

    DeLuxe...Innovations in N Scale Freight Cars for Over 16 Years! - DeLuxe Innovations Home Page
    Wood Chip car
    Coal Porter
    Thrall Lo-Pac
    Trinity 57' Spline car
    Lots of containers


    Hope this helps.
     
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  12. SteamDonkey74

    SteamDonkey74 TrainBoard Supporter

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    If you can go out and see your favorite operation, what I do is I take a bit of paper and a pencil and I write down the numbers on the sides of a bunch of the cars along with the AAR reporting marks (e.g., ABCX 23456) and then look up the cars when I get back to see what they were. That way I don't have to be an expert on exactly what model I saw just to know what I was seeing.

    This helps me put together reasonably good consists.


    For historic trains, it's a little tougher, but this doesn't sound like your primary area of interest.
     
  13. hb2301

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    Thanks to everyone, especially H Lee who really went above and beyond! I really appreciate all the help. Looks I made the right decision to join this group!

    Joe
     

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