NCE PowerCab Starter Set & Extra

in2tech Jan 7, 2022

  1. in2tech

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    Alright got my NCE PowerCab Friday. Reading the PDF manual and watching YouTube videos on it, and using it too. I found out how to make the recall space 6 instead of 2 locomotives. But somehow I entered a Duplicate #5 ( using old numbers for now ), and I can't figure out how to Delete just one item from the Recall area? Btw, just found the Momentum options and it's rEally cool. Really enjoying it so far. Lot's to learn still!
     
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  2. sidney

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    in2teck just type in a new loco number in the spot that you have two number it will then create a new loco......
     
  3. BigJake

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    Are you using the momentum feature programmed into the decoder, or does the PowerCab have a 'momentum' throttle response (automatically ramps up successive DCC speed commands to the loco until it reaches your current throttle speed? Kinda like a (very) low-pass filter on the throttle setting.
     
  4. in2tech

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    Can you enter 0000 to Clear it to Zero's? That's what I am trying to do, till I get me New Kato ES44DC's setup today?
     
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    It's a appears to be Global feature on the NCE PowerCab that set's it from 0-9. Zero being no momentum and 9 being the most. I have it set to 9, and it appears to work with every locomotive, it's really cool! Gonna try and learn some basic New locomotive setup options today when I setup my 2 new Kato ES44DC's.
     
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    The DCC hook is set in this one.
     
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  7. in2tech

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    Not sure what that means? Anyway being new to the NCE PowerCab what CV wise can I set on my new Kato ES44DC locomotives? I saw something about the light's which makes the most sense to try? Don't want to mess with any power adjustments just yet? I mean I should be able to make them brighter or dim them correct? And since there is only ONE bulb it would adjust everything, headlight, ditch lights, and number boards? If it is indeed CV 49, what values are there to enter? I can't find a range of numbers in the manual?

    Sorry, new to all of this! I don't want to mess anything up?

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  8. CSX Robert

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    Fishing analogy - hook, line, and sinker! The hook has been set, there's no going back now!

    The numbers you can plug in to CV 49 are in the column to the right under lighting control. For constant dimming of the headlight, use "Constant Dim 1", so the value would be 12, 28, or 44, depending on whether you want it on in forward, reverse, or both. You also have to program CV 64 (left side under Back EMF and Rule 17 Dimming Options) depending on how much you want it dimmed. The other Constant Dim values (2 - 4) are in caes you want more than one dimming level. The CVs to set their levels are not listed on the single sheet guide, you have to go to the comprehensive programming manual available here:https://tcsdcc.com/index.php/documentation
     
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  9. in2tech

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    Yeah, now that I get it, YES, I was hooked 3-4 years ago with the Bachmann EZ Command Control, but the NCE PowerCab is NEXT level for sure, speed steps, momentum is freaking awesome, multiply by 4 or 10 buttons, single speed buttons, don't use the wheel, CV's, which I am just learning and a little freaked out about for now, and I am really, really, enjoying it. The entire reason I really enjoy the hobby today is because of DCC. Luckily I only had a few DC locomotives in the past, just a bit of rolling stock, and started very slowly into DCC.

    @CSX Robert Thank You for the information, much appreciated.
     
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  10. BigJake

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    There are so many avenues in this hobby; and DCC opens up a whole new set of them to enjoy. It's what got me back into the hobby after a hiatus of >10 years (well, DCC & JMRI.)
     
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    yes thats all you have to do....
     
  12. in2tech

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    So will the options for lighting work on most locomotives, like Mars, Flashing, etc... listed on the sheet? I know the ditch light's won't blink unless you have a compatible locomotive, I get that. But what about the others?

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    And what is the Consist Lighting Control & Lighting Quick Presets? Rotary Beacon won't work unless you have a beacon correct on the top of the locomotive? Actually going to try some of the lighting effect CV's tonight for the first time, see what happens on the Programming track? Especially curious about the Brake Light's, what that mean?
     
  13. BigJake

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    Most factory- or drop-in-installed decoders will only have the leds that are there on the DC model. So anything that needs other lights will not work. That said, the effects are functional, but only on the head/tail light (at least in N scale). Custom N scale installations sometimes add and wire up additional lights in the shell, depending on how much you want to pay for the installation.

    Go ahead and experiment with the effects on the head/tail light!
     
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  14. in2tech

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    Thanks a ton, @BigJake and @CSX Robert and others here. Just went down the entire list for lighting CV49 for the Kato ES44DC, and most are cool, and some kind of weird to use. But the CV49, with the Rule 17 dimming is awesome as I can change the value of the Dim option 2-6, and go from Brightest to the Dim setting I set from 2-6, by just pressing the number 4 on the NCE PowerCab. It's really cool! I mean I'll probably try the Mar's etc... at times, but the Rule 17 seems to be the best option for me at this time. Cause I go from the headlight Brightest to Dim with the Press of the #4 key! Sweet! I'll wait on other setting's, ( power, amps, etc... ) till I get more comfortable with all of this CV settings options. But this is really nice with the NCE PowerCab, me likes :)
     
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    So am I imaging things or when you choose the speed steps say going from a high number like 30 ( in 10's ), and lower it in 10's or single digit's, depending on the buttons I use, is that the Slow Braking, slowly slowing it down, cause it sure seems like it? As it slowly comes to a stop in that way, as opposed to the Emergency Stop when is Immediate and not Realistic Stopping, which is the reason it called Emergency Stop :) Just wondering and still learning the system, which is awesome btw!

    Went through almost every lighting option for the Kato ES44DC new locomotive, and they are really cool. Some don't makes sense to me, but they do work. Especially like the one where I can change the headlight to bright or dim with the Push of the #4 button, really neat.

    Thanks for your help!
     
  16. jhn_plsn

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    The braking effect is controlled using momentum. Try using the 'option" button as it is set as the brake. Some may have more info as its been a while for me. Emergency stop sets the speed to 0 where braking does not.
     
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  17. in2tech

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    Thank you very much. I guess the Option key is set to that default? I was wondering how you could take it to Zero without using the Emergency Stop button. Much appreciated, and of course since I have the Momentum set to 9, which is the highest setting ( that I know of ), and it slowly comes to a stop. The NCE PowerCab just gets cooler every day :) It's too advanced for me at this time, but I think I read you can program that button to pretty much whatever you want too? I'm happy with the Brake at this point.
     
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    So I have learned a lot about the NCE PowerCab and love it. So apparently the 1-0 or at least 1-9 buttons are functions keys, F1-F9? I know F4 is for dimming my headlights on locomotives, and it comes up on the NCE display just like L for lights does. What does Function 1,2,3,5 and 6 do? Are they for Sound locomotives? Still learning of course.
     
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    Other than F0 being the headlight, there really is not standard for what the function keys control; although, having the bell on F1 and the horn or whistle on F2 has become a de facto standard which I believe every sound decoder follows. For F3 and above, you'll have to consult the individual decoder or loco documentation. They are mostly for sounds, but they can also be used for other things like cab lights and marker lights.
     
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    So I used to be able to choose Momentum and set it from 0-9 , and 9 being the most delay, but appears not to be working lately as it doesn't seem to be producing the delay on start up as it did before? Any idea why that would change? I have not changed anything in the settings referring to Momentum settings. Or maybe I am just dreaming?

    Thanks!
     

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