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OC Engineer JD Jan 16, 2009

  1. BarstowRick

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    I'm not sure if some of you have had the same experience. On two recent orders that I paid for. The sellers backed out for reasons still unknown. I was never given a chance to evaluate the seller. It appears according to the notices I've been getting that e-pay is changing their policies and procedures. If that be so, they may be swinging toward protecting the sellers. Where a balanced plan that adequately protects the both the seller and buyer would be better for all parties.
     
  2. RGW1

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  3. John Moore

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  4. umtrr-author

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    The seller is honest with the number and coverage of the photos but incorrect on the manufacturer... it's actually a "High Speed" loco! I thought something looked odd about it from the first photo.

    I guess this got lost in the sea of GP-whatever they are's...
     
  5. ScaleCraft

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    A pair of "weathered" cars:

    Exhibit A

    Exhibit B

    They almost look like they were left to sit on some cardboard that had spilled model cement on it, and then peeled off after it had partially set.
     
  7. BoxcabE50

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    Yet another treasure, unearthed from where the dog had buried it in their back yard.
     
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  9. John Moore

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    I am also trying to figure out what my old eyes are seeing on the back of the tender. Doesn't look like the old crapido coupler that was found on those. And that missing drive shaft between tender and loco would give a date to that critter. Clunky fat drive shaft much older version. Thinner drive shaft a little newer. They did run fairly well and pulled well also for a very small loco, that is until the Zmactitis set in to the tender wheel assemblies. Purchasing a set of replacement tender wheel assemblies new from Bmann a few years ago found numerous quality control issues with the replacement sets thus rendering my small fleet of them inoperable. Scrapped the lot. One would be far better off buying the Atlas version that has crisper details and operates far better than wasting their money on one of these.
     
  10. Spookshow

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    It's a High Speed knock-off of the Bachmann 4-4-0. Not designed for running.

    Cheers,
    -Mark
     
  11. RGW1

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    I have my computer hook up to a 32in TV so It is fun so see what some of this stuff looks like big.Then It is easy to tell that this engine is a toy and not a model.( that is if the photos are good) never seen one of the HS 4-4-0s in person are they even close to scale?
     
  12. John Moore

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    I agree with Mark especially after going back and really looking hard at the offering. First clue is the connection between the tender and loco. 2nd clue is the lack of the pick-up springs above the tender trucksthat carry current from trucks to motor that would be in tender if a Bachmann. The 3rd clue is that whatever at the rear of the tender intended to be a coupler. I missed all but the whatever at the tender rear the last time I looked and from a distance could have passed for the actual Bachmann. However my comments on the actual Bachmann version still stand. If one wants a decent old style 4-4-0 buy the Atlas.
     
  13. Spookshow

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    If you look at the pictures of the underside it is actually stamped "High Speed".

    Cheers,
    -Mark
     
  14. ScaleCraft

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    Hence the comment about "High Speed" and my link to the evilbait warning about purchasing that carp (sp) thinking it will function on your track.
    Plastic wheels, no motor or gears (and no place for them), no main rod, crosshead guides, crosshead, or any of the other stuff you have learned to expect in nano-scale.

    Those prior to Mark's post, read this to know more than you ever wanted to know:
    http://www.ebay.com/gds/Beware-of-Hi...2107188/g.html

    Look at the photos of the 4-4-0. Scroll across, find the underneath shot...with part number...and Made in China....and "High Speed".
    How the moron selling it can take a photo of the underside that clearly shows High Speed, post it, and still manage to call it Botchman is beyond me.
    He (or she) must think his (or her) potential customers are cretins.
    Prove him (or her) wrong.

    Dave
     
  15. John Moore

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    Man my brain must be in locked mode because I also did not pick up on the scrolling for more photos. Still would not spend my hard earned money on it even for a static display in a park scene. Already have a dead Bmann version stored away for that. About the only thing it and the Bachmann version have in common is being made in China. Who knows maybe the same outfit made these for High Speed as made the ones for Bmann. I'm going back upstairs and lock myself away in my room where it is safe.
     
  16. Maletrain

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    I had a similar experience, although I did not pay before he backed-out. The listing said buyer could select color, but the buyer ignored color request. I had tried to use telephone number to check color availability before ordering, but buyer listed incorrect number. So, I put a "message to seller" on my order and waited for response. After getting no response, I sent another message through eBay. Still no response. Then I got an e-mail OUTSIDE of eBay asking when I was going to pay. Noticed that e-mail had a different phone number and called it. Got the seller on the phone and had what seemed like a nice conversation. I explained that I was looking for a particular color, and he said he did have it, although what he had already packed to send to me was NOT what I asked for. So, basically, he had ignored both of my messages through eBay. I told him that I would pay through PayPal as soon as we had the color settled - all I wanted was a message THROUGH EBAY from him acknowledging that he agreed to provide the color I asked for. He agreed on the phone, but never sent the eBay message. The next day, he sent me another e-mail OUTSIDE of eBay asking why I had not yet paid. When I responded that he had not yet sent the eBay message he agreed to send, he became angry and nasty, sending me another e-mail threat to cancel the order if I did not pay immediately. I sent an e-mail response explaining that I wanted the agreement documented in eBay because his actions so far did not indicate that I could rely on him sending the color we had agreed on. He canceled the order, banned me as a buyer, and blocked my e-mails, telling eBay he did not have the stock to fill the order and telling me by yet another e-mail that he cancelled because I am too hard to work with, and should "join the human race and learn to trust people." Once the order was cancelled, I had no way to provide feedback.

    So, yes, I think eBay has provided a way for sellers to avoid negative feedback, at the expense of losing a sale. And, I think some sellers have already figured out how to abuse that. What this particular seller was really trying to do, I don't know. His behavior seems similar to an Alzheimer's sufferer that I have had to deal with. Had he simply sent the eBay message and mailed the proper color, he would have gotten a positive feedback with only 4 instead of 5 stars for "communication." Was that worth loosing a $60 sale. To him, apparently it was. And I was never nasty in any of the communications, just wary.

    To me, eBay is not really protecting sellers as much as it seems to be trying to protect itself from losing sellers, even bad ones. Not reassuring to a buyer. Only the eBay money-back guarantee is keeping me bidding.

    Steve
     
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  17. BoxcabE50

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    They lost a lot of people when the one sided Feedback was created. I know a whole bunch of good sellers who walked away. I quit selling and set up my own web site. A friend was is a MAJOR sports memorabilia collector/seller dropped out. That kind of system is akin to allowing sucker punching. Or fighting with both hands tied behind your back. Life is a two way street and so must be Feedback. The PP mandate, and other 'or else' style rules, have driven away even more sellers. More recently the mandatory free accessing of bank accounts. No way folks, sorry.
     
  18. RGW1

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    It seems that Ebay does give a lot more protection to buyers,this is probably justified in many cases however there has been many times that I almost walked away from selling anything on Feebay .I stayed because I wanted something and need to sell off what I did not need from a lot that I won. I have had a guy leave a negative feed back saying " paid but not received item buyers beware" He left this feed back the same day he finally paid ,because I opened a case for nonpayment, I called feebay was on put hold and after 30 min of trying to get the false feedback removed was disconnected with not resolution.

    Had a buyer not pay or respond to my messages for 2 weeks so I blocked them, couple of weeks later they sent me a nasty email for blocking them just because they did not pay. Latter that same day they asked me to unblock them because they wanted some thing I was selling
     
  19. umtrr-author

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    And I hope the answer was at least "NO" if not with some language best avoided here prefacing that "NO"...
     
  20. John Moore

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    Ran across an article about a week ago that basically said that PayPal was splitting from EBay so maybe the discontent with the auction site is growing. I don't know how reliable the article was or whether any truth to the story and I really did not read much of it since I have nothing to do with the auction site and won't.
     

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