MAY HAVE FOUND LIQUID SOLDER!

MarkInLA Aug 7, 2012

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  1. Dave Jones

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    UPBigBoy - Thank you for your postings. Actually I am remiss in that I didn't do it myself. That is the second time said gentleman has "jumped" one of my posts, but this time he quoted me verbatim.
    Which I take to mean that he was speaking of or to me.

    I am absolutely no expert on anything but I have a 10x12 ft. layout which is operable and it is operated on as closely as I can follow the prototype. I would estimate that said layout contains close to 50 or so solder joints. I do not LIKE to solder - simple. Been doing it for about 50 years and my joints don't look that bad.

    That said, if I can find a better, cheaper, easier. or more suitable way (to me) to do things., I'm going to. Comments on this forum are welcomed by me, but a little courtesy will go a long way.
     
  2. mfm_37

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    I'm still trying to figure out how this conductive glue is an improvement to soldering. Reading through I see that the connection needs to be clamped overnight while the glue sets. How many clamps would I need to install feeders on a shelf layout around a 12 x 12 room? It uses carbon mixed with some type of adhesive to conduct. That would increase resistance in the connection. Isn't carbon what they make resistors out of?

    For soldering, I heat the iron, get in, get out joint cools for a few minutes and it's ready to use. even if I melt the end of a tie, I can fix that before conductive glue would even be dry. Not flaming anyone, I just can't see it as an improvement. BTW, It's certainly not new. My old tube of conductive glue went in the can ten years ago after it dried up in my tool box.

    Martin Myers
     
  3. Jerry Tarvid

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    In terms of resistance I would like to see the OP run a test using an ohm meter on say a series of six joints using seven pieces of six inch wire. Lets not run blind here. Failure to perform some sort of viable resistance test negates the purpose of this thread IMHO.

    :headspin:

    Jerry
     
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  6. UPBigBoy

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    It may not be an improvement but just another way people have of attaching wires to rails (in this case) that don't like to solder. It seems some people like this method even though no one is sure about the amount of resistance (if any) there is but if it works for them - GOOD. How about the repair kits for rear window defroster lines on a rear window, it is a conductive metal (copper I think) suspended in a liquid,however it does not have any holding (gluing) properties.

    I hope this is a good alternative for people that do not like soldering but I guess only time and maybe a few tests will tell.

    Jim
     
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  8. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Back on topic- NOW.

    We can discuss pros and cons. Preferences or not. Make comparisons of what works for one and not for another. We do not need to agree. But the personal edge, we leave that out.

    BoxcabE50
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  9. nscalerone

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    Guys:
    Have it your own way............it is OBVIOUS we don't agree. I think your responses are childish and defensive because I don't agree with the use of
    "liquid Solder" to attach feeders. As I've said, it's like "re-inventing the wheel".
    If it was a reasonable, improved way to do it over soldering, I would be very interested......but as anyone who has ANY experience with it will tell you (IF you would be willing to listen), it is messy, takes forever to set up, has conduction issues, and is a poor substitute at best. (Think that's what I said from the start??)
    Now, let's all go back to playing with trains.............and leave off the snide remarks about my military service...........I take that personal.
     
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