Great Lakes area

When containers from the coasts arrive in Chicago, are they loaded onto barges or ships for eventual deliveries to Canada? Or are they just carried by rail AROUND the lakes?

 

Actually it's UNDER the lakes

CP and CN have tunnels under the lakes at Detroit.

 

There is another tunnel crossing from Sarnia Ontario to Port Huron Michigan.
CP also run trains around the north shore of Lake Superior so movement can go from Duluth to Toronto and points east.

 

I thought you guys were kidding me, with this tunnel stuff. Being from Southern California, I had no idea these tunnels even existed.

Thanks for the info.....is there a website that has more info I can chack out?

Mark

 

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Thanks for the info.....is there a website that has more info I can chack out?<hr></blockquote>

I can't find anything on-line. Anyone know of a web site?

Rob

 

Here is a link to another forum that has a picture of a train approaching the Sarnia side of the tunnel with some commentary regarding it.
I will post anything else I can find.Sarnia/Port Huron tunnel

 

Thanks for the link. That entire site (which looks and works similarly to Trainboard) is based on railroading in and around the Great Lakes area.

I wonder just how railfannable this area is? Are there good sites for viewing/photography? Could a California boy find his way around? Could I take in a hockey game while there?

 

Mark
The Great Lakes area is vast. It starts in Duluth on the west of Lake Superior. CP has a line along the rugged north shore. I am not familiar with the south shore. Then at the east end of the lake is Sault Ste Marie and Lake Michigan stretches south to Chicago with cities like Milwaukee on the west shore. There is a part of Michigan that borders Lake Michigan on the west and Lake Huron on the east. This is a highly industrialised area with Detroit at the southern end. A large section of Ontario borders Lake Huron, Lake Ontario and the east side of Lake Erie. Toronto is the hub of this area with both CN and CP main lines passing through. Buffalo is on the north east side of Lake Erie then further south is Cleveland, Toledo and many others ending once again at Detroit. Just think of the history with the Nickle Plate, C&O, NYC, PRR, NW and many others.To say the least there is tons of railroading in the area and I have just mentioned a few.
There are NHL teams in Toronto, Buffalo, Detroit and Chicago. Most times tickets are hard to get but some travel groups get access to them. We also have NFL games at Buffalo, Cleveland, Detoit and Chicago and if you are a baseball or basketball fan then you can find them here too.
I enjoy railfanning along the rugged north shore of Lake Superior and around the Golden Horseshoe which takes in Toronto and Hamilton. The is a large hump yard in north west Toronto where there is always action. I live in Georgetown Ontario with an active double track CN line through here. There is a bottleneck with the century old bridge across the Credit river which is only single track. There are good viewpoints around the bridge.
Hope this gives you some idea of the area.

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Thanks for the info, Robin.

Can you, or anyone, recommend any good videos based on the area?

 

So, going under the lakes saves mores time or was this just an “engineering adventure?

 

The points where there are tunnels is more like under a river than a lake. The great lakes flow from Lake Huron is much like a river from Port Huron /Sarnia down to Detroit/ Windsor where it opens into Lake Erie

 

From what I have heard from engineers who go through those tunnels today, it's still a bit of an adventure (drip) if you (drip) know what (drip) I mean (drip)

 

robin,
You left out the Canadian Football League...lol.

Rob,
Nice quote from Melville