This won't be one of those questions like you find typically thrown out here. Where a discussion will rage on and the promoter never participates. This is meant to be a running commentary, one where you can feel free to add in your comments and thoughts and know I will chime in from time to time. The subject: Courtesy While Visiting A Layout I will start the ball rolling by suggesting some courtesies and you can add your own or comment pro or con about something I or anyone else has said. Yes, we need to keep it civil otherwise the moderators here will shut us down and leave us out in the cold, with no food or blankets or .... and we want to keep those NMRA Ninja's at bay as well. Oop's I must have gotten carried away here. Adam, a premier president of an outstanding model train club noted a few things with regard to this subject on a prior thread..."Weight" in train cars as in when is to much, to much? He suggested that if you come to visit his layout and or the club's layout and your train cars don't run well on either one don't take out a pair of pliers and screwdriver to adjust the track. That should be a given but I've seen guys attempt to jump in on my layout and try to rebuild it, when I just finished checking it with a NMRA gauge, in their presence...(right in front of them) and it's fine. Here we go: Courtesy Dictates Hands off someone else's layout and train equipment unless invited or directed to do otherwise. Don't wave or point into the layout. The stove or diesel unit you inadvertently knock off the tracks and hits the floor comes under the category of "You broke it you bought it", as in you will be expected to replace it. Home layouts and some club layouts will have tight areas to get into. You don't go there unless invited and when you do so you watch your elbows, dun lapped tummies and your hands. You want to leave the layout and train equipment in the same shape you found it. Truth, should you damage something it's best to admit it and say how it happened. Most of the time it can be fixed quickly. If they end up troubleshooting and spending hours on figuring out how it happened....you may not be invited back. You see a derailed car, broken rail, switch hasn't closed and you are tempted to reach in and correct the problem....DON'T. Advise a club member of the problem and let them fix it....unless invited to provide assistance. Unless invited to provide assistance. Usually you have the trust of the club members and their president. If you have arrived at such, guard it carefully by continuing courtesies on your part. Ok, that should get us started. Now you can add your ideas, comments and thoughts on the subject. Feel free to jump in as many times as you'd like and add something you may have forgotten. Civil guys and gals. Forward, to the point and clear as a sunny day in Ohio... but we must keep it Civil. :we2-policeman: Being mean, ugly, awful and testy is in my job description. What, what, what did he say? I used to be a supervisor and sometimes, I glitch back into that roll. Like a dirty diaper... Have fun!