ConCor EMD F A dummy front truck

DMK Jul 8, 2021

  1. DMK

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    I broke the front truck frame that includes the diesel engine skirts. I would like to replaced it. Any ideas?

    Thanks.

    DMK
     
  2. John Moore

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    You can try using an ACC for plastics.
     
  3. acptulsa

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    Skirts? I'm lost.

    Idea, yes. My idea is post a photograph.
     
  4. DMK

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    Repair is too difficult. I want to purchase a new one
     
  5. John Moore

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    Since Concor doesn't stock parts for the old stuff your best bet is to try Ebay and see if you can pick up another being sold as parts.
     
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  6. Hardcoaler

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    If they're the F-3s as seen below, they are indeed old, dating from 1973. They were manufactured by Fleischmann and sold by Con-Cor, and as said by John, parts are no longer available and patience with eBay might be your best option. I find two pairs for sale on eBay in the U.S., but at crazy high pricing of $89.95. They're worth perhaps $20/Pair at the most. About 2-1/2 years ago I sold my A-B-A set (one powered, two dummies; that's one of my A's below) for $31.50 plus shipping.

    Con-Cor GN F-3 A-B-A Second Try 007.jpg
     
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  7. DMK

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    John,

    You got it. Could I substitute another brand's frame? Pic's attached.
    Dave
     
  8. DMK

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    Pics attached
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  9. John Moore

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    If we are talking about the outside frame for the truck itself I doubt it and the whole chassis I also doubt it. However there were several versions of this model made and it may be possible to just substitute the complete truck from a different model of FA unit. However the pics posted are not showing up so all is just guess work at this point without seeing what is broken. There is a possibility to use the front truck assembly from an old Model Power unit since these had a unpowered front truck.
     
  10. bill pearce

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    John,
    You are so right, I too am unable to get the photo to open, and I'm befuddled by the use of the term skirt.

    Bill
     
  11. Doug Gosha

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    By "skirt" he means the truck-mounted pilot.

    He has a posting on N-Scale.net too and a picture is included.

    Doug
     
  12. acptulsa

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    Truck-mounted pilot? As in, something no EMD ever had, but was invented by Lionel?

    Scrap it. Better F-3A dummies are a dime a dozen.
     
  13. Doug Gosha

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    It was done that way because the unwritten agreement in the early N scale days was to guarantee equipment would operate on 9 3/4" radius curves and couple to other equipment on said curves.

    Doug
     
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  14. Hardcoaler

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    I'm not a member there, so can't see the photos. Is a Con-Cor F-3?

    Yep, Arnold's F pilot was truck mounted too. :) Back then, who the heck cared?
     
  15. r_i_straw

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    I may have one. Is this it? From the bottom of my junk box. It does have a small crack in it but seems sound otherwise.
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  16. Doug Gosha

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    Yes, it's a Fleischmann-made F3. It has "Con-Cor AUSTRIA" in the bottom.

    I can think of only a few early cab-type locos that didn't have a truck mounted pilot. The Atlas E8 and later F9 and Con-Cor PA's had them, too. The Bachmann F units had the pilot body mounted but the pilot was only about 1/3 there with the humongous opening in it. Pretty much the same with the Minitrix/Aurora.

    Doug
     
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  17. John Moore

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    Somehow I finally realized we were not looking for an FA but an F a unit so with that info still Ebay is the best bet and maybe a Roco model that appears to have the same truck in addition to the Concor offerings.
     
  18. r_i_straw

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    I found the chassis that this truck came off of. On the bottom it says Austria Con Cor. It's yours if you want it.
     
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  19. Doug Gosha

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    Complete with bulb? Such a deal!

    :D

    Doug
     
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  20. DMK

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    That is it. I will buy it from you.

    DMK
     

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