B&O. EA Locomotive

gcav17 Feb 9, 2021

  1. gcav17

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    Just curious if anybody has ever made this and if they haven't. Why not? This thing is beautiful. [​IMG]

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    Here is the video I captured this image from..



    From what I understand this EA was built in 1937. I can't wait to here this powered up.

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  3. r_i_straw

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    There have been a series of videos tracking along with the restoration. It looked pretty long in the tooth before they started. Awesome job they have done.
     
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    Yep. They sure did. But I guess it is just a static display. She won't have a rebuilt engine. Dang it all.

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  5. r_i_straw

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    Those old Winton prime movers may be hard to find parts for.
     
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  6. Doug Gosha

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    Very beautiful. That's about as Art Deco as you can get.

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  7. alister

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    You can get an n scale model of this - a shell is available on ebay from a very reputable person. The shell is designed to fit on a Kato E8 mechanism, you get the B shell as well.
    Search for 3d Printed N Scale E1 A/B B&O Shells. Hopefully I'm not breaking the rules with this.
     
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  8. Point353

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    A brass model of the B&O EA (and EB) was produced about 35 years ago.
    http://www.spookshow.net/loco/kumatae.html
     
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  9. NorsemanJack

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    That is a beautiful locomotive. While we may never see a mass produced N scale version, the E6 is a first cousin and we may have hope for that from Kato (some day). I love those slant nose EMD passenger locos but, of course, am a bit partial to those with corrugated stainless on the side (see my avatar).
     
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  10. acptulsa

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    It's drop dead gorgeous. But there were six A-B sets built for a single railroad, and they only lasted 15 years.

    I tailored my era and locale to realistically operate E-1s, but not everyone does that (the Santa Fe's E-1 was very similar, but for taller, rectangular side windows in stainless side panels).
     
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  11. Mr. Trainiac

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    I know BLI did one in HO, but the closest you may get in RTR N scale is an E6 (also BLI). You might be able to find a brass model, but even that may be difficult.
     
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  12. r_i_straw

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    Yeah, but they sent them all back to EMD for a little work and they came back looking like this. ;)
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  13. acptulsa

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    So did the B&O, except for the one (don't remember if that was one cab or one set) transferred to the Alton. Of the first built of the six models, the E-2A and E-2B, the UP and SP units became E-8m rebuilds too. Only the single E-2A the C&NW owned escaped that fate. They were all rebuilt in 1952-53.

    Interestingly, the ATSF 1/1A, which had the same machinery in boxcab car bodies by St. Louis Car, got rebuilt as E-8m boosters just after the E-1s, with old motors in new trucks. The UP, B&O and CB&Q all had early units with that machinery in car bodies by Pullman Standard, GE Erie, and Budd respectively, but to the best of my knowledge EMD rebuilt none of them. The B&O boxcab is in the museum in Kirkwood, Mo.
     
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  14. Mr. Trainiac

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    Did they call those E8m? I only have one edition of Railroad Model Craftsman, and that edition I have has these locomotives as the cover article.
     
  15. acptulsa

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    Yes. They were detuned to E-7 spec, 2000 HP total, because the early traction motors could barely handle that much. There were at least as many boosters as the fourteen cabs. B&O, five cabs and five or six boosters; ATSF eight cabs and five boosters; SP one cab; and the UP had four boosters.

    The Santa Fe units are particularly easy to ID in photos, at least until some were sold to the B&O in 1969. The ATSF bought no other E-8s and no E-9s.
     
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  16. mtntrainman

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    So do I understand this right ? They all took a beautiful locomotive and in the end made them all 'Plain Janes' ?? :confused:
     
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  17. acptulsa

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    Everybody but the Northwestern and Alton. Though I don't think the C&NW and SP's bulbous-nosed E-2A were all that pretty.
     
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    I believe that's where some of B&O .'s went.
    If my memory serves correctly. Only the EA, E-3 and the E-6 had the art deco shovel nose. All the rest were the standard straight nose.

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  19. acptulsa

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    The Santa Fe's E-1As had a nose nearly identical to the EA, with no chrome and even tinier oval number boards (3L got unique number boards when still pretty new). The Seaboard-only E-4s looked just like the E-3s and E-6s, except the E-4A had a nose door. The Burlington-only E-5 can be seen in @NorsemanJack's avatar, and the museum in Union, IL. The two E-2 sets originally looked like this:

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    The other set, however, was marked City of Los Angeles and had no SP herald on the nose of number LA-1.

    The very first F-units had a nose like the EA and E-1A, too, with tiny rectangular number boards about where the E-3A number boards sat. These were the Rock Island's six examples of the four axle, sixteen cylinder, 1200 HP model TA. They had amazingly long service lives. The rebuilding they got (undoubtedly a lot of it) wasn't done by EMD. They got Mars lights by 1940. After that, their appearance changed little.
     
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    I am going off of what I have read about the E's .

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