Athearn Challenger/UP Excursion Train?

Spookshow Jun 25, 2013

  1. ATSF5078

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    That big online train shop that can't be mentioned here has a few sets in stock.
     
  2. Phillip33

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  3. James Norris

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    Mark,

    For the trucks, what wheel sets do you want to use, so I can gest some dims.

    Cheers,

    James
     
  4. Spookshow

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    No preference really. Whatever you think would work best.

    -Mark
     
  5. Phillip33

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    James,
    I think Microtrains width would be preferred. They are .540.
    Phillip
     
  6. James Norris

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    river_eagle,


    Is it me or does that last shot show no rivets in the side of the tender? They show up clearly on the black centipede tender and in the other shots.

    I am just looking at the detail and the rivets are a big part. Rivet or not to rivet, that is the question?

    Cheers,

    James



    James
     
  7. Spookshow

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    That last photo shows the tender as it was before the 2005 rebuild. You can see the transition here -

    http://wrrc.us/about/highlighted-projects/union-pacific-water-car-no-814/

    Apparently the tender used to have some sort of outer jacket that concealed the rivets. So, rivets or no rivets would depend on which version you're designing (personally, I'd like to see the original version).

    -Mark
     
  8. Phillip33

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    I like the rebuilt version so you can model the water car with the flag.
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  9. Phillip33

    Phillip33 TrainBoard Member

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    This is the water car I'm referring to.
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    Phillip
     
  10. Doug A.

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    Well, prototypically speaking I want the pre-2005 version, but I would probably roll with either. If I rolled my own I would probably do one of each and just swap out the trucks. (or maybe floor and trucks?)
     
  11. river_eagle

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    The original 8500 gas turbine version still has the insulation jacket and heater covers
    (round hatches along bottom, the bunker c fuel had to be kept hot to be thin enough for the turbine to burn)
    and were removed during the rebuild.
     
  12. Spookshow

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    And away we go...

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    -Mark
     
  13. Spookshow

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  14. James Norris

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    Ahah, that clears that up! The extra pictures will also help a lot, thanks.

    Right I think the best thing is to do both versions, as I am halfway through the new one so I will finish that first, sorry Mark :). When I get to a good point I will post up some picks of the model.

    Cheers,

    James
     
  15. Spookshow

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    No worries here, I can't wait to see what you come up with.

    Cheers,
    -Mark
     
  16. Spookshow

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    Couple more -

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    -Mark
     
  17. Phillip33

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    Looking good Mark.
    Are you going to modify the Dome Lounge like they did in N Scale Railroader?
    Phillip
     
  18. Spookshow

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    I don't think I need to, do I? The Kato dome-coach looks like a dead-on match for Challenger and Columbine, and those are the only two domes I need for my train.

    -Mark
     
  19. Phillip33

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    Sounds good.
    Im going to model the Harriman 9004 Dome lounge.
    If your not going to use yours let me know if your interested in selling it.

    Your Howard Fogg and Art lockman cars look nice what did you use for the grills and extra window?

    Here is a picture of before and after that someone else modeled.
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    Phillip
     
  20. Spookshow

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    Thanks, Phillip. I used one of the utility windows from Tichy Train Group set #2526 for the Art Lockman car, and the grills from a Kato E8 shell I had laying around for the Howard Fogg car.

    $20 and my spare #9004 is all yours. PM me if you're interested.

    -Mark
     

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