WAB An Iowa question

BoxcabE50 May 5, 2002

  1. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Can anyone point me to a map on the 'Net, that would show some decent detail for Albia, Iowa? (Preferably late 1950's.) I am curious as to how the Wabash interacted with the M&St.L and the CB&Q in that area.

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    Albia, Ia.......one of the gateways to the Southern Iowa coalfields!
    Thanks for the question Ken.
    I still think the MSN Terra Server (see map) is one of the best resources we have. Of course, it doesn't go back to your 1950s time frame, but with a little "imagineering", it's easy to track the various roads that served Albia and the coalfields.
    If this does not provide enough info for you, please let me know. I have many maps, which show the rail lines, mines (by name), interchanges etc going back to about the turn of the century. If you need any of them, I could scan and email to you.
    Much of the activity in this area began to decline just before and during the period you mentioned (the '40s-'50s). This, of course, produced many abandonments of branch lines, consolidations, and trackage rights agreements.
    Hope this helps.
    Bill

    [ 05 May 2002, 05:39: Message edited by: wabash_one ]
     
  3. BoxcabE50

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    Bill-

    What made me curious, was seeing Wabash train orders copied as "Albia", "Albia CB&Q", "Albia M&St.L."

    From your link, it appears that the CB&Q had two lines. One south of town, the other through the north side. I can see connections between them all.

    While it looks like it could still be busy, a few decades ago Albia must have been quite a place for railroading.

    :cool:

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    Not sure about the train orders....maybe "joint use" or ?
    You're right about being a very active area. I've read that the Rock Island alone had 12-15 coal trains a day from those coalfields back in the haydays.
    The CB&Q dual mainline splits just east of Albia at Halpin. The southern main being a "quick way" to avoid the congestion of downtown Albia. I think those are the two CB&Q mains your are seeing.
     
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    Hi Bill-

    What you are seeing in the trains orders is:

    On Wabash form copied at "Albia" is from the Wabash depot.

    On Wabash form copied as "Albia CB&Q" came from the CB&Q depot.

    On Wabash form copied as "Albia M&STL" came from the M&St.L depot.

    So it seems that each railroad must have had transfer runs, or some type of interchange with each other, so that they at least briefly ran over each others trackage.

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    Could Be. Would that have been a routine way to handle those interchanges? What are the other notations on them in the body of the order? Sounds interesting.
     
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    I have a friend that lives very near there in Moulton Iowa, I will see if he has iny info....he was a member of this board, but found the layout to confusing so he hasn't been back, since. How ever I will see what he can find and post anything I find out for you all..or I will connect you two...Boxcab.do you AOL Instant Messenger?
     
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    BN9900-

    I was hoping to be lucky. Maybe find someone who would have a map of Albia, dating from days when the M&St.L, etc., still existed. (1960 or earlier.) I wanted to see how the yards, and interchanges were laid out in the city during those years.

    Don't have AOL IM. Not on AOL. :(

    A little bit humorous- Being a big Milwaukee Road, and Northern Pacific fan. Here I am spending more time on the Wabash Board, :D learning about this RR!

    [​IMG]

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    That's OK Ken. Eventually EVERYONE finds a home with the WABASH !
    :D
     
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    [/QB][/QUOTE]That's OK Ken. Eventually EVERYONE finds a home with the WABASH !
    :D [/QB][/QUOTE]

    Now I suppose I'll need to start buying books, and, and, and.......

    :D

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    :D [/QB][/QUOTE]

    Now I suppose I'll need to start buying books, and, and, and.......

    :D

    BoxcabE50[/QB][/QUOTE]

    Great news!.....now isn't that one of the fun parts of this hobby...the research?
     

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