I seem to remember someone was looking for a '50's front loading garbage truck? https://wasteadvantagemag.com/the-ever-expanding-history-of-the-front-load-refuse-truck/ Then again maybe no one was but I ran across the one above looking for 50'-60's trucks where the dimensions are show so I could possibly try using one for a 3D print. If any one knows of scale drawings of truck in the era let me know as I haven't found much searching. Thanks, Sumner
That truck looks like a 1953 White 3000 COE that CMW made. You will have to scratch build the body but you can get basic dimensions from the truck chassis. https://www.ebay.com/itm/CMW-N-Scal...vQAAOSw5rdeJ1ZM:sc:USPSFirstClass!15317!US!-1
The cab and chassis is definitely a White 3000, but it looks like a longer wheelbase than that CMW tanker. But lengthening the frame would be easy compared to making that garbage packer body.
The correct wheelbase can be determined fairly easily by using the same ratio of something in the picture to the same thing on the CMW model. Once that ratio is known then it can be applied to everything else.
That is a cool looking garbage truck. Would make a neat model to go with the regular CMW garbage trucks that are coming in N soon (I hope)
I decided to try and design and print one of White's trucks from the 50's to use on top of my switch machine and to also be able to use independently on the layout. This was my first attempt at designing a vehicle from scratch and I didn't have any real life dimensions. I looked at some photos and did the best I could to try and make it to scale. Here are some photos of the results... Not great but for a first attempt I'm happy. The couple printed examples above look a little rough but they are really blown up a lot larger than real life in the picture. Just looking at them from 12 inches or so they aren't really too bad and I think after a little sanding/filing and paint they will pass my inspection. I just guessed at a lot of the measurements and with no real pictures from the back just added features that I liked, the only one that it has to please. It is printed in three parts, the cab, the rear tank and the wheels/tires. They will need to be glued together. I have some small locator holes on the backside of the cab and the front of the tank. They could be drilled out for something like part of a round toothpick that could be used to locate the two parts during gluing. Not sure that will actually be needed though. I'll glue these after painting and hopefully get some more pictures up then. If you have a 3D printer or access to one you can get the printer files on my thingiverse.com account here...... https://www.thingiverse.com/Sumner/designs The truck can now be printed as a stand alone object for your layout and I'll work on getting a version that will mount on a deck that goes on top of the 3D printed switch machine.... http://1fatgmc.com/RailRoad/3D-Printer/3D-Printer-Index.html Sumner
I just searched again for specs and/or diagrams of the 3000. I'm amazed I can't find any for such a famous and revolutionary truck as the first mass produced tilt cab. Yours is looking mighty good. But the widest part of any truck with duals in the back is the load/utility body, not the cab and front fenders. I did find an image from 1958 you may find interesting, though.
Yep, realize that. This was just a quick try at this and I got lazy as I didn't really expect to come up with anything that might actually be workable. I'll probably try to address that in the future when I find the time. Meanwhile found this cool video of a very nicely done model.... I'm more of a quick get it done and at my age don't have time to spend a lot of time on any one thing. If I'm not really enjoying what I'm doing I'll move on and not be too worried if it is exact ... , Sumner
Good first try but visually there seems to be a mismatch in the size between the cab and the tank. The tank seems too small or the cab too big. In the prototype picture the tank extends beyond the width of the cab and kind of matches the width of the fender.
I think acptulsa was right that the tank isn't wide enough and I was aware of that just too lazy to fix it. So I just got off my butt and got back into Fusion 360 and widened the tanker part. It will take a little over an hour to print and then we can see if that helps. Again I'm not a rivet counter so I'll move on to the next project. I'm not trying to sell these , Sumner P.S. acptulsa thanks for the picture. Since I have the cab done I'll use it to make some different variations of the truck.
You're very welcome. That's the nice thing about trucks. You can mix cabs and bodies. Any body can be installed on anybody's truck (provided they make one of the right capacity). Keep up the good work! Sorry you aren't working in HO, or I'd make you sell one--to me! But while White 3000 cabs are small, they aren't that small.
Next version will be a little higher in the back and I'll work on a couple other things. Remember this is only about 1/2" wide and the pictures are way larger than the truck. In real life you don't see the tracks of the PLA layed down, it looks smooth. Also pictures are taken up close and that distorts them due to the lens on the camera, Sumner
If anyone that does not have a 3D printer is interested in a White 3000 fuel truck, here is a link to the one GHQ makes. http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/56011.html GHQ also makes a semi-tractor, reefer and ten wheeler (6 X 2) with the White 3000 cab. http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/56001.html http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/56005.html http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/56007.html Carter
That one is really nice and here is another I found... https://www.ebay.com/itm/CMW-N-Scal...vQAAOSw5rdeJ1ZM:sc:USPSFirstClass!15317!US!-1 I have a feeling that both of those are printed with a resin 3D printer. I can't get the detail they are getting with my PLA printer. I can get down to about .015 of an inch but that is about it. The wheels and tires and other surface detail just isn't possible or at least not for me. I considered starting with a resin printer but for the way I'll use it I think I'm happier with the PLA Ender 3 Pro, at least for now. It is giving me detail that is up to my standards. Sumner
Thanks MK. I've made a little progress on the truck in both its stand alone version and a version with a tab on the bottom of it where it is used with a switch machine. I put some detail on the top of the truck and also made a version that... ... has a bottom tab on it ... ... to help mount it on the bottom of a deck that mounts ... ... to the top of the switch machine I designed. You push the truck back and forth to throw the turnout and the slide switch under it which changes the polarity of the frog... http://1fatgmc.com/RailRoad/3D-Printer/page-3.html Sumner
I made an effort of painting one up today... and also have a 3 foot shorter wheelbase one that ... ... can be printed alone or on a switch machine, Sumner
I took the picture above to show the relative size of the N Scale truck compared to the pictures I've been posting of it. Sumner
