Microtrains Horse Car

Dampfloko Feb 28, 2016

  1. Dampfloko

    Dampfloko TrainBoard Member

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    I was hoping to see MT horse car in western roads this month. As the model is based on a SP prototype, I just do net get how you cannot release the car in the original scheme?
     
  2. arbomambo

    arbomambo TrainBoard Member

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    the model 'may' be based on a western road, but it's a foobie...it's a 70' car based on an 80' prototype...
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    however, I'll actually be getting one to bash into an ATSF 70' baggage with end door.
    Bruce
     
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  3. Point353

    Point353 TrainBoard Member

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    Maybe the SP car from Wheels of Time will arrive first: http://www.wheelsotime.com/80-ft-baggage-horse-car/
     
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  4. John Moore

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    Are we sure that the car was based off the SP. Pennsy had several 70 foot horse cars.
     
  5. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    Well, I will no longer be the only kid on the block with a horse car. :(
    This was made from M&R etched sides plastered on to an old Rivarossi car.

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  6. gdmichaels

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    Simply beautiful!
     
  7. arbomambo

    arbomambo TrainBoard Member

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    Russell!...your builds inspired mine!



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  8. JMaurer1

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    Two things: if you are going to the trouble of making new molds for a car, DON'T DO a foobie (why, why, why) and if you are going to do one, the first run should be of whatever road the car is from (or roughly taken from). MT, you know I love you, but sometimes you take advantage of that love...
     
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  9. Jerry M. LaBoda

    Jerry M. LaBoda TrainBoard Supporter

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    Yes, but some problems developed when designing this car... the prototype is an 80' car while the model is a 70' car. Actually closer to some cars that the L&N had... L&N was the only other road that had the center doors offset like on the model.
     
  10. Puddington

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    ...or you could scratch one like this CPR horse car....

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  11. Kenneth L. Anthony

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    Former SP horse car at Arizona Railway Museum in Chandler AZ. 2014 photo.
     
  12. Dampfloko

    Dampfloko TrainBoard Member

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    So the prototype was 80' and MT produced a new body style and changed the length to 70'. Why would you create a new mold and not get the length correct!
     
  13. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    Because most railroads only had 70' horse cars? (Ducking and running for cover.:eek:)
     
  14. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    If anyone is modeling the 1947 Freedom Train this car would work perfectly with the addition of the M&R baggage car sides. Santa Fe Baggage & Express end door car number 1896 was loaned to the Freedom Train and repainted. I kit bashed this out of a Rivarossi car using reefer door hinges on the end door before the M&R etched sides were available. But as Bruce and I have discussed, this would be a perfect car for the core using the etched sides. I will get at least two to replace the this one and another to paint in Santa Fe colors.
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  15. Dampfloko

    Dampfloko TrainBoard Member

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    I still do not understand why anyone would go to the trouble of producing a new body style and not get the prototype produced. If there are many 70' horse cars as Mr Straw suggests, that should be a different release.
     
  16. Jerry M. LaBoda

    Jerry M. LaBoda TrainBoard Supporter

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    Well, when you "assume" something when you really don't have to nor should what do you expect. They assumed the Arizona car was 70'... but its not...

    And, yes, all the others were 70'. Only a small group of Espee cars were 80'.
     
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  17. arbomambo

    arbomambo TrainBoard Member

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    I'm pretty sure the Santa Fe Horse cars (like the ones Russell and I, among others, have built from M&R Sides), are longer than 70'...
    I'm away from home and don't have my Head End reference book handy, but they were longer than 70'.
    Bruce
     
  18. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    The Santa Fe horse cars delivered new from Pullman, numbers 1990-1999 were all 82'2". The 1980-1984 cars like Bruce and I built were converted from 78'5" chair cars. These and the SP cars were longer than the norm that ran on most other railroads.
     
  19. Jerry M. LaBoda

    Jerry M. LaBoda TrainBoard Supporter

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    I didn't know Santa Fe had converted some from coaches but then I am not well familiar with the line's horse cars aside from the models that I see...

    Thanks!!! Always good to learn something new!!!
     
  20. Dampfloko

    Dampfloko TrainBoard Member

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    I guess I am tired of MT foobie cars. They create something new and exciting then fail in the final product release.
     

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