Why do steam locos run better in reverse?

Pete Nolan Jan 26, 2005

  1. Pete Nolan

    Pete Nolan TrainBoard Supporter

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    This one puzzles me.

    Nearly all my recent purchases of steam locos--and they are many--run faster and more freely in reverse. This includes Mallets, Northerns, 2-10-2s, Berks, Consols, Mountains, Mikes, even an old Con-Cor Hudson.

    Any theories?
     
  2. GP30

    GP30 TrainBoard Member

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    I don't know, but it's the same way in HO Scale.
    At an Operation Session a month ago, i was assigned an Extra with a Bachmann Consolidation at the point. I barely chugged along with 9 cars. Did my switching by hand since it wouldn't do much switching.

    Ended up leaving the place I was switching with 22 cars. I thought for sure I'd have to call for the helper crew. I ran around the cars tacked on my cab and coupled up. Man that sucker pulled those 22 cars up a slight grade back to the main yard with no problem.

    I may never know why but That has always bugged me.
     
  3. Thirdrail

    Thirdrail In Memoriam

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    Yes, sloppiness in the gear train. Running forward the worm pulls the armature forward, running in reverse it pushes it back. Since you are driving two trucks on a Diesel, you don't have this problem, as there is usually a universal joint between the motor and worms.

    BTW, I have not had this problem with my MDC's, nor my MP Pacific, what little I've been able to run it - it won't negotiate my curves.
     
  4. LongTrain

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    My MDC 2-8-0s have many hours of NTrak run time, forward only. After all that running, they do seem a little stiff in reverse.

    I was impressed when they were new becaise the mechanism was as close to bi-directional bliss as any N Scale steam loco I have ever seen.

    I wonder if the isolation of the motor in the tender removes those thrust forces? The drive shaft to the worm has to be in at least two pieces. I bet the thrust containment is all in the loco half, and the tender just has to spin the shaft. But in all the time I've had mine, I have never had to take one apart. So I'm only guessing.
     
  5. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    I solved that problem with this ROWA Y6B. :D
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  6. LongTrain

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    Ain't that the truth!!! :D [​IMG]
     
  7. sandro schaer

    sandro schaer TrainBoard Member

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    even large scale live steam engines usually run better in reverse. however, it can be fixed by adjusting the valves.
     
  8. Fotheringill

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    Thirdrail

    Keep running the MP Pacific. It will improve after about 25 hours- It now pulls 7 on 9/3/4 before slipping and at what I consider slower speeds.
     
  9. CornAngel

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    And I thought it was because the engine was too light, not balanced with the motor in the cab. Needs balancing weight in the front.
     

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