Shapeway's log loader?

SPsteam Aug 3, 2012

  1. SPsteam

    SPsteam TrainBoard Member

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    Has anyone tried the shapeway's barnhart log loader, the model looks pretty interesting.
     
  2. talltales

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    yes,a friend and i have each bought one of these. neither is built yet,but it is nicely done and will be a great addition to an n scale logging layout.
     
  3. crappie610

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    I built one nice kit assembled easy. does fit all nation n scale log cars
     
  4. Kenneth L. Anthony

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    I have seen ads for All Nation O scale. Haven't heard of it as an N scale manufacturer. Is this the same "All Nation"?
     
  5. randgust

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    I think you mean Quality Craft aka Gloor Craft, and yes it does fit. It also works with N scale Kits 25' log cars.

    Mine is partially finished, but the precision of the parts is outstanding. It's really good. The only problem is like most Shapeways kits, there's not a whole lot to go on for finishing, details, etc. I did soak mine in Bestine to clean it.

    There's a lot of rigging, internal piping, etc. that needs to be done, as well as a careful job of painting and weathering.

    But the precision and accuracy of the parts is outstanding. Really, really, really good. I scratchbuilt one years ago that got a regional NMRA award, and this one is better than that. It's really a testimony to just how good Shapeways can be for parts. Nothing I can do in resin can touch it, particularly the winch engine assembly. It's incredible.

    I've got an entire logging reference library to fall back on with photos. The Pennsylvania Logging museum at Galeton PA has the only surviving loader, and it's in a barn so small photography is challenging to say the least. It's also restored like a fine piece of furniture, not a loader. If you're stuck on photos PM me and I can send you scans, but I can't post scans from books here or anyplace else.

    This is one of the best shots I've ever seen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cooks_forest/3165120695/
     
  6. SPsteam

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    Sounds great, I'll be putting this on the top of my N scale purchase list!
     
  7. randgust

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    I happened to notice these comments down in the Flicker page:

    " Shane Camp (13 months ago | reply)

    My Grandfather Lester Jordan and I restored this loader. it took 10 years to complete.

    Also, in your description you state that it ran on rails on the log cars. I want to clarify that the loader was winched from car to car via a cable that ran from the main drum, down through a pair if rollers, then to the next car, it it did not have powered wheels.

    An operator of these loaders could load a log every 1-2 minutes. they could swing the cab/boom and reel out cable while doing so and literally throw the tongs to the log he wanted to load.

    The cab of the loader was done by Tom Hewitt, Lester Jordan and myself."


    I've seen an old black and white silent movie of an operating Barnhart doing just that - throwing the tongs to the man on the ground in the woods, the man on the ground CATCHING the tongs in mid-air, then throwing the tongs on the center of a log, jumping clear - and the loader operator snapping the tongs tight - all in one smooth, scary, and unbelievable move.

    You have to realize that the boom is fixed position. The only way to 'throw' the tongs is both rotate the cab and release the cable at the precise moment. And that's how it was done.

    The other "Barnhart mystery" common minsconception is how it crossed from car to car. It's like a little tank under a Barnhart with all those wheels. The carriage was long enough to span two cars without dropping between them. On the competitor "American", there were only four wheels, and you have to use a bridgeplate with rails on it between the log cars.

    These loaders ONLY worked on the cars with the rails on them. There were a lot of manufacturers of cars. Rails could even be put on steel flatcars (there's one of those at Cass with an American) but the typical car was the 25' N Scale Kits car, if you're looking for the appropriate equipment. Also note that this was a 'small log' loader by what many modelers think. No 40' logs here like on the MT cars. They were primarily eastern, but I've seen some western outfits with them, including Southwest Forest Products in Flagstaff in the early 1900's.

    I've got a great shot of a PAIR of American loaders handling long logs on Wheeler & Dusenbury, one on each end and using 25' cars like disconnects.

    I love this shot for many reasons, it's an American instead of a Barnhart, but the entire technology shows well, the cars, how they were loaded, and the rails under the loader. This is on my W&D.
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