New Car ideas for MTL

Joe D'Amato Apr 1, 2007

  1. AB&CRRone

    AB&CRRone TrainBoard Supporter

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    Add my nomination for heavyweights along with this rather different freight car:
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    Atlanta, Birmingham & Coast 70-ton steel covered hoppers 52001-52006, former Hercules Powder 1002 series. Built 1929-31, builder unknown, acquired by AB&C in 1941 for cement service. Grey paint with black lettering, probably the only freight cars using AB&C diamond logo. Hercules Powder paint scheme unknown to me.

    AB&C's major claim to fame was hauling trains of the "Dixie Route" to Florida along with northern partners, C&EI, L&N, and NC&StL, as well as ACL and FEC. Photo by Joseph M. Gentry. Photo and other information from Larry Goolsby's "Atlanta, Birmingham & Coast."

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  2. BNSFtheLeader

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    These would be cool so I don't have to scratch build them anymore
     
  3. daniel_leavitt2000

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    1. Comet II/Horizon cars! I need entire trains in MBTA... about 25 coaches and at least 5 cab cars, not to mention a few Horizon in PIII Amfleet.

    2. Trinity PD hoppers. Like the old Walthers ones but with better detail. These came in great paint schemes (Twnkies anyone?).

    3. A modern 89' TOFC with options for tripple 28' or tripple 53'

    4. A good bay window caboose that would work with both SP and NYC styles.

    5. Modern Plastics hoppers

    6. Trinity 19,000 gallon corn cars.... Would love a ton of AE Staley.

    7. Flexi-flow hoppers

    8. Transfer cab

    9. x58 boxcar

    10. heavyweight passenger cars

    11. CF7 We NEED this model and it fits MTL's release structure perfectly. (I'll take Mass Central and Bay Colony)

    I really think MTL should jump into passenger cars. They should come out with trucks that take 36" wheels and feature mor truck types. I would love to see Comet cars especially, but wouldn't mind streamline if they were apropriate for Amtrak. With the core tooling broken, this might be a perfect oppertunity.
     
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  4. H Lee

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    How about doing the PS-2 70-ton two-bay covered hoppers that have recently been released in Z scale - also do the version with the cutout in the side.
     
  5. LADiver

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    Hi great to here from a manufacturer, asking us for ideas.

    89' flat for containers
    89' flat for trailers
    89' boxcar
    60' flat

    All in BN of course
     
  6. SecretWeapon

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    Dan's right !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I forgot Comet Cab Cars to go with Comet cars. Don't forget to add working markers & headlights.:thumbs_up:
     
  7. Doug A.

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    These...
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    -Carbon Black Hoppers
    -Any of at least a dozen different modern tank car models
    -89-foot TOFC cars "modernized"
    -CF-7
    -CB&Q/C&S/FW&D Style Wood Caboose (i.e. HO Walthers version)
    -"Runner Packs" of BN 100T Hoppers & 89ft TTX flats
    -BN Scale Test Car
    -Second the Heavyweight Passenger cars
    -More ATSF MOW flats (sans load, or with track panels per below)
    -Ballast cars (like Walthers old cars, updated)


    I can provide detailed proto research on any of the above, especially the carbon black cars.

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  8. sandiego

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    How about multi dome tank cars or a B&O Wagontop boxcar?
     
  9. jwaldo

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11DTf6CYzHM"]YouTube - Union Pacific "Oilcans"[/ame]

    Further proof we can use these.
     
  11. tallsurfman

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    Bay window cabooses (cabeese) for Southern Pacific and Western Pacific, Harriman commuter passenger cars for Southern Pacific, and keep bringing on the open auto racks....
     
  12. TJS909

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    I second the Bay window caboose, Heavyweight pass cars, and ventilated box car.
    How about an old time tank car from the 1900-1920's?
     
  13. BnOEngrRick

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    Based on MTL's style of "one road at a time" releases, many of the freight car suggestions would probably be best left to the Atlases and Intermountains of the world.

    I am glad I am not the only one who would like to see the modern carbon black car. This would fit MTL's style perfectly. Another scheme, which I believe is on the same basic car, would be the bright green "Cab-O-Sil" fumed silica scheme, along with the variety of owners of the carbon black car.
     
  14. skipgear

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    Something I just thought of, not new but will be definitely in need shortly, log cars.

    With the Atlas Shays due shortly, it would be really nice to have another round of 30' log cars (not modern or disconnect). A small traveling logging crane on a flat and or a logging caboose would be a nice addition also. For a new style of car, see below. They were made in HO by Rivarossi a while back, including rails for the crane to travel on. Not sure if there was a crane to go with it.

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    Photo from Steaminthewoods.com
     
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  15. Mr X

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    I have already chimed in about the heavy weights. But I would like to agree with the bay window caboose suggestion. And I would like to point out the road name in my avatar.... please make them in the Erie Lackawanna road name.

    Also I know it may be too much to ask, and it seems like MT does not do too many locomotives or at least I am unaware of too many being made. You were also asking specifically about freight cars BUT...

    I really would like to see an Erie Lackawanna E8 A+A set or a single with multiple road numbers.

    As far as a freight car goes and I have not seen them in a while and always wanted one. I am also not sure how many other people would want them but it is a helium storage box car.

    I am not sure how to describe it or what it is actually called though, but it looked like a box car frame with a bunch of helium tubes or pipes that stored helium with in the frame work.

    Mr X
     
  16. Gats

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    Joe, another suggestion...

    PS2-CD 4427 hoppers in high and/or low side versions. A common predecessor to the more common 4740/4750 cars. NP, GN, CB&Q, BN, Frisco, CNW, ATSF, CGW, KCS, DRGW, Soo, MILW, MKT, MoPac, Rock Island, UP, WC to name some. Numerous shortlines and private shippers also had/have these.
    I believe Walthers did the low-side but they haven't been readily available for some time.
    Please consider releasing them in the 4-car runner's packs. Rarely did these thing travel singly.

    I have to throw in the following non-freight/passenger car suggestions...

    1. Low profile 36" wheelsets, separately and in appropriate trucks, with and without couplers.

    2. All modern (RB and Barber) trucks available in bulk-packs with lo-pro wheelsets, not only the few packages of lo-pro fitted trucks available in pairs.
     
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  17. Doug A.

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    Scale Test Cars MUST be more common...

    Rick, I too have always thought this would fit MTL's "m.o." very well. But I've e-mailed them in the past and never got any kind of response about the cars. Figured I'd post here and get an official rejection so I can move on with my life. :cry: :teeth:
     
  18. Curious_George

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    I go with Atlantic Flier suggestion of the woodchip gondola (GREENVILLE).

    I would also say the bay window caboose is vital, and Walthers is well dated so maybe it could be considered.
    You cannot, I repeat you cannot model late to end era SOUTHERN without a bay window, yet no one seems to realize this even though locomotives are made from the era where a bay window would tag a long behind it, and no other caboose would you find on a Southern train as the old COG caboose were very rare.
    A bay window caboose would be hard to make based on the endless builds of them, however I bet the majority are willing to compromise on a decent model that may not reflect the roads proto type modeled.

    Mike
     
  19. wig-wag-trains.com

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    I think you will be surprised soon.
     
  20. Tudor

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    X, I assume you are refering to the Helium Tank cars like the ones Roco did for Atlas in the 60s as part of their 1st gen cars 3030 series. Roco also kept making them after Atlas offered them under the Roco brand. I have a few of them, and they sell pretty high on the collector circuit, especially the Atlas ones. Those are pretty cool cars.
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