BarstowRick's H&P Layout Restoration

BarstowRick Sep 15, 2020

  1. Shortround

    Shortround TrainBoard Member

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    In my part of the continent the term "points" was used a lot. In both real and play life. 'Switch' and 'Turnout' also were in there.
    My trip to the other side only took me to Japan and Viet Nam. And only by air where it has a different term used.
     
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  2. Kisatchie

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    Hmm... nice of you to
    point that out...
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  3. Doug Gosha

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    And you never hear/see anybody ever say, like, "Train XXXX just passed the North Turnout." or similar.

    BTW, I misidentified a covered cat pan as a cat carrier. :D

    Doug
     
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  4. BarstowRick

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    Here's what I can do with that and no one gets hurt.

    I always thought it was the Engineering influence of Europe and it's Colleges of Engineering, that first gave us "Turnout". Why I don't know. My studies opened my eyes to a Swiss engineer designing the D&RGW. Actually the Denver and Rio Grande. Western was added later. Was known to qualify the switching mechanism as a Turnout. You can still find it on the original drafts or what today would be called blue prints.

    Glad to hear the British call it Points.
    Thanks for the comeback.
     
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  5. BarstowRick

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    Quote: I've never heard anyone at work say "That turnout is against us" or "I need to throw that turnout". It's always "That switch is against us" and "I need to throw that switch" ;)

    Cheers,
    Rich S. Unquote.

    Quote feature didn't work out so welll this time.
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    Thanks Rich S. Now you are sounding like my family of Santa Fe Employees. I never heard them use Turnout. It was always a Switch. As you indicated above.
    Thanks
     
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  6. BarstowRick

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    Not just the only thing slowing down things on the layout. I need power in order to test the wires. Here is the holders and/or saddles for the lack of a better word. You do know everything I'm doing is Analog DC. Still stuck in the past. The good old boy Transformers.

    I used my work area for the first time and rebuilt, painted the holders. I like it. Kept the sun off me.
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    Cab A. where a MRC throttle will go in. Odd, I can't find it and I know it's here.
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    Cab B. Here's the installed holder for. the 35M Transformer.
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    This has an Adjustable Momentum and a Brake Switch. I can set the Momentum at the level I prefer and adjust the speed of the train or trains without jerking them around. Works well on the downhill where trains tend to bunch up while Drifting downward. Nice action.

    Had a friend using his own DCC Throttle off of Cab B. Cut off switch. I can cut out Cab B. and select DCC. It's a bit tricky when running Analog on Cab A and DCC on Cab B. Not something I recommend.

    Now back to the story of the friend. He jerked his train to a stop and lost it on the floor. His comment I don't like Momentum. He picked up the pieces.

    More later.
     
  7. BarstowRick

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    Only used and followed by laughter. Heard the UP boy operating the Challenger, say they were going to back through a Turnout, followed by laughter in the cab.:ROFLMAO::LOL::p

    You didn't? The kittly litter box? After all you can 't smell it so you didn't have a clue. :D:D

    Later.:cool:
     
  8. mtntrainman

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    Rick...Rick...Rick.

    Stop typing and get that outside mainline running. We are all waiting for the video !!
    One mainline...just one. So simple a caveman can do it !!!! :whistle:(y)
     
  9. BarstowRick

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    I'm waiting for track to arrive. Can't install what you don't have. Aiiyiiyii !!:confused::confused:
     
  10. mtntrainman

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    Rick...Rick...Rick...

    You had 2 pieces of Unitrack when I was there to go over that chasm in back. You only need 1 short piece of track to go over where you cut the layout in half up front. You can 'steal' that piece off another part of the layout...for now. One mainline my friend...just one !!!! :rolleyes::)

    Do I need to drive all the way back up there to spend 30 minutes getting a train running on your layout ?? ! :whistle:
     
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  11. BarstowRick

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    George, my impatient friend. There's still a curved section that needs a total rebuild. Relax Dude, I'll get there.;)

    The wires that are already soldered to the tracks needs to be rejoined before... I can run anything. A simple loop wire won't get'er done.:cautious::sick:

    I'm working on it. I'm working on it. ;)
     
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  12. mtntrainman

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    WAIT !!!!!

    Are you saying I suck as a motivational speaker ?o_O:censored::LOL:
     
  13. BarstowRick

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    Oh Cr@%, NO you are a good motivational speaker. You just have a terribly hard person to motivate ME.

    You lit a fire under me by simply showing enough interest in the layout. Just showing-up pushed me to make the layout presentable.


    My quandary and what is holding me back is the need to close off the train room from my colony of cat's. Then I will run trains. I don't want to vacuum the layout each and every time I want to use it. Cat hair and they are shedding up a storm this time of year. Pretty much all year long up here in Idaho.

    I could fill in the track gaps with a temporary fix. Downside: It still isn't fixed. Because of the cat's. Then the trains would have to go back into storage each and every time I finished running them. I'm not one who is satisfied with watching one train run around in a circle. Two times around and I'm done. Boring!! Bringing me back to: My problem still exists, waiting for me to fix it permanently. I don't want to do that. If you get my drift?.

    I'm motivated what with fall finally here. Cooler temperatures outside will mean I can get out and cut the particle board I need for the sub-road bed. I hate hot weather with a passion. Never mind the smoke. Like I said, I hate it here.

    Getting under the train table is a real chore anymore and I'm doing my best to build this so I can work from the top down.

    I'll get there or die trying. Not laughing!!

    Never good-bye but Later.
     
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  14. BarstowRick

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    I found the MRC transformer.

    Here's what it will look like once it's permanently mounted.

    The saddle.
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    MRC Tech. 3, Model 9500 aka Cab A.
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    This transformer does not perform very well when it comes to the Momentum feature. Takes forever, to get a train running. So!! I use it mainly for switching the top yard and the hidden staging yard. Which, includes the Roundhouse turntable.

    One more picture.
    To the right is a holder I built to house the controls for the turntable. I have an Atlas power pack that will move the turntable one direction or the other. It will all work well once I get the basic layout back together again.
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    Okay, time for a nap.

    Later.
     
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  15. mtntrainman

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    Progress...I like it ! (y)(y)(y)
     
  16. DeaconKC

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    Rick, how deep is that saddle? I have some MRC packs that will be working on my layout and really like the looks of that one.
     
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  17. Doug Gosha

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    As fastidious as cats are, it's funny they haven't evolved to clean their own pans.

    :D

    Oh, and the way most MRC power packs work, as far as momentum, the higher you initially set the throttle, the faster the loco will accelerate although I like independently adjustable acceleration better, as on my Controlmaster X.

    Doug
     
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  18. BarstowRick

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    The measurements on this saddle is 4 !/2 inches deep, 12 1/2 inches long and 10 1/2 inches wide. It is on an angle so that the thicker part of the transformer is in the deepest portion of the saddle. I hope that makes sense.

    I also hope this is the one you are asking about.
    DSCF1912.JPG You can see it's anchored to two supports for the sub-roadbed above. It's not going anywhere. I will use screws to hold it in place. They will anchor into the plastic footings on the back of the transformer.

    As it will eventually look once it's installed.

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    Materials used. Well, I went dumpster diving. I found some left over pieces of particle board that once resembled a desk. Fiddled around with it for awhile until this jumped up at me. A few fittings later. Saw this, sand that, glue this and finish by screwing it all together, a little paint and wallah. I have a saddle.

    That's it for now. See you all Later!
     
  19. BarstowRick

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    Don't I wish. Well this retired mortician knows how to dig so I get to play digger and dig all that $#!* out from time to time. More often then I care to admit.

    What I wouldn't give to have a Controlmaster. Yep!

    Enjoy.
     
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  20. DeaconKC

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    Thanks! Gonna have to try to figure out how to steal 4 more inches in depth for the layout bench now!
     
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