Kato N 176-7610 DCC Ready EMD SD70M 'Flat Radiator' CSX #4695

in2tech Apr 30, 2022

  1. in2tech

    in2tech TrainBoard Member

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    Do the ditch lights work on these locomotives like my ES44DC's. I mean both at the same time? And what size wise is the difference in this and the EX44DC locomotives I have, if any? And you know me know nothing about prototypes just buy on what looks good to me. What does Flat Radiator mean? Although I was thinking about getting Norfolk Southern (sp?) just to have something different, but can't find one.

    Never mind there is no Norfolk Southern, I'll take another CSX. Love them! If I get these in the future. Also trying to ONLY buy recently manufactured when buying new stuff, trying.

    So many questions, such a simple model railroader, buying on looks, really :) Well and price!

    Future purchase possibly!

    Thanks! Time for an education again, me thinks!

    Looks like ditch lights DO work? 60 seconds in. Guess I just need to know about Flat Radiator!

     
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  2. Hardcoaler

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    I've guessed that the angled radiators provide more cooling area than flat, but I don't know for sure. They sure look cool, making the SD-45 an eternal fan favorite.

    Fairmont, GA 12/22/1987

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  3. freddy_fo

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    My ~2000 SD 70M has working ditch lights. Excellent loco.

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  4. in2tech

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    That mean you purchased it in 2000? Confused apparently there is a Norfolk Southern SD70M for sale, not sure when it was produced by Kato? It's kind of cool looking, but it hard for me not to get the CSX. Something about them I like a lot :) Like I said I buy on looks and price :) Just how I roll! This is a future purchase and I could change my mind possibly! Once I sell enough stuff I am not using, to make room in my wallet and engine house, although I don't have one, really! Sometimes it's just fun to dream :)
     
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  5. freddy_fo

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    I looked up the part #176-7603 (my loco) and it says manufacture date of 2006 so a little bit more recent than I recalled. That vid you posted indicates a release date of 2022 so if you get one of those then it will have an updated chassis but I expect the shell will be the same as mine except for the paint.
     
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  6. in2tech

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    Yeah when I can on NEW merchandise I purchase, locomotives, rolling stock sets, etc... I want recent manufacture dates if possible!
     
  7. C&O_MountainMan

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    “Flat Radiator” gives the slab-sided look you can see in freddy_fo’s SP loco in his post.

    “Angled Radiators” give the rear half of the engine body that “hammerhead shark” look, that you can get a sense of, from Hardcoaler’s picture.

    ES44s/ET44s and AC6000s wrap the angled bodywork around the end of the loco body, and really set off the look.
     
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  8. Martin Station

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    in2tech,
    I have one of the recent Kato NS SD70M flat radiator locomotives and both front ditch lights work excellent. Of course mine are dcc ready. You are in2tech but I was stopped at the door! I am dcc stupid but my layout is small (3'x6'4"), and using Kato track, I have four sidings that I can pull trains into, close the switch and pull another train out to run on the main line. I am not really into sound but I understand why a lot of people are and like the value of being able to use flashing ditch lights and strobes. After 25 years working in aviation and almost 22 years working in a automotive plant, now retired I enjoy the quiet of my locomotives.
    But back to the SD70M's, I have both the flared and flat radiator units in NS and I personally prefer the flat one because the roof top detail is outstanding, just like on the prototype locomotives. On the flared unit the roof top was much more plain. I agree with you that the CSX units do look really sharp. I model BNSF but have locomotives from other railroads as run through units including CSX. I really don't know if I am being much help but feel free to ask anymore questions you may have about these units.
    Ralph
     
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  9. C&O_MountainMan

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    The angled radiator will have more effective natural circulation on the air side : as the air passes in through the underside and heats up, it rises and induces a draft to pull more air in behind it. You don’t need as much fan power to pull the air through.

    Flat radiators (with horizontal airflow) produce no natural circulation benefit.
     
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  10. Hardcoaler

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    Ah, that makes good sense. Thank you for the clear explanation.
     
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