Viaducts/Bridges

BrandonBascom Sep 28, 2019

  1. BrandonBascom

    BrandonBascom New Member

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    Does anyone know what these 2 parts are that Gregg used in his layout? Screen Shot 2019-09-27 at 10.16.33 PM.png Screen Shot 2019-09-27 at 10.16.04 PM.png
     
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  2. viperjim1

    viperjim1 TrainBoard Member

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    Looks like the top one is a side of a atlas or? Bridge on atlas piers and the bottom pick looks like another custom bridge using warren bridges. But never seen a item like that from a retailer
     
  3. bill pearce

    bill pearce TrainBoard Member

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    I would like to hear from an engineer or architect about that plate girder with the middle cut out.
     
  4. Hardcoaler

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    Too, the curved bridge structure supported by it would never support anything more than light rail transit. Nonetheless, it looks like a fun railroad. :)
     
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  5. MK

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    In the real world, it's unstable and once you cut the top of the girder like that you have effectively reduced it's load carrying capability drastically, to the point of uselessness.

    But this is a model railroad. :D
     
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  6. Dogwood

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    Extremely exceptional. The whole construction is still made up. Since looks as a model already unstable.

    Sorry........ is just my personal opinion.
     
  7. Kurt Moose

    Kurt Moose TrainBoard Member

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    Here's a similar design that holds up the BNSF mainline over US2 near Goldbar, Wa. Screenshot_20190928-131526.png
     
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  8. Kurt Moose

    Kurt Moose TrainBoard Member

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    It's possible, but the girders aren't compromised like the model.o_O

    If you were to build something like this, you could use Micro-Engineering girders?
     
  9. fitz

    fitz TrainBoard Member

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    If I were a modeler, I would have made those two structures myself out of scrap wood or other available stuff.
     
  10. Dogwood

    Dogwood TrainBoard Member

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    Kurt is right. MicroEngineering offers the best conditions.
     
  11. vasilis

    vasilis TrainBoard Member

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    from a structural engineer's point of view
    1. the support beam (girder) with the mid cut in the first photo (estimated span about 25-30m) is not realistic. One solution is rearange the track and fit a pier (column) to support the bridge. The bridge carrying the track above the four tracks, is unrealistic too, because is too thin. A solution to this is to make a girder bridge or a truss girder bridge, again with a realistic hight to the span ratio and enough wide for the curved track. The biggest problem to make it looks realistic, if my eyes don't lie to me, is the slope of the track.
    2. the bridge carrying the turnout in the second photo looks like more realistic and is achievable, though I dont see all the supports and the girders will have to be a little higher maybe.
    3. @Kurt Moose, the beams supporting the bridge in the photo are not cutted and the bridge's beams are connected to the web of the supporting beams. Another difference is that the bridge is connected to the supporting beam near to the support pier and not in the middle of the span.
    Finally, as already mentioned, you can easy model theese structures from scratch. For the supports placing and to choose the bridges a plan is necessary.
     
  12. mtntrainman

    mtntrainman TrainBoard Supporter

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    Necessity is the mother of invention when it comes to our hobby. Is it always plausible? No, but if it works and looks half good while doing it...I say go for it !! JMO (y)
     
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  13. BNSF FAN

    BNSF FAN TrainBoard Supporter

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    Agreed, it always reverts back to rule #1 :)
     
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  14. bill pearce

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    Once went to the Naperville prototype modelers convention , and went to a clinic of realistic bridges. We sat through nearly an hour of photos of bridges on guys layouts that, it constructed in real life couldn't support their own weight. He then elaborated on the things necessary to make a realistic bridge. It was a fairly short list and nothing was beyond a entry level scratch builder.

    And nothing he showed was something that was not obvious to the average high school student.
     
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