Which passenger wagens could I hook up on my BR221 without creating a fantasy setup? Are TEE sets possible? Is the HANS SACHS set possible? Somehow I think they don’t match the blue/beige paint of the loc. When I search photos the br221 keeps popping up in its red paintjob. Which cars should I get ?!?
I was stationed in Lahr, West Germany, on the western edge of the Black Forest, from 1986 to 1989. The BR 221s were still active for the first couple of years, but I cannot reliably remember seeing one - those were my peak years of wild living and wild flying. I have a dim recollection of perhaps catching a glimpse of one on an excursion train maybe, but, if so, did not get a photograph. Mainline diesels were rare in that area, and everything other than switchers was electric. There were still a few locomotives in dark blue/dark green (BR 110) when I arrived, and the rare passenger car as well. Maroon/beige and blue/beige were the most common, along with the silverfish commuter cars, and growing numbers of new-scheme red locomotives and red/white, blue/white, and green/white passenger cars showing up by the time that I left. A fair amount of mixing is perfectly prototypical for that period and for some time afterwards - perhaps even more. Non-German passenger cars were fairly common as well. I saw East German, Swiss, Austrian, French, Italian, and Dutch in a variety of paint schemes, but this was the major north-south route along the east bank of the Rhein, with a junction at Offenburg (wherein I was living) leading off to the southeast, probably through Switzerland and Austria. I have no idea what a "Hans Sachs set" is.
See if any of these help. Click on 'more pictures'... http://v200.richardkrol.nl/ Yes, most show the red and black scheme. But not all. I don't see any sign that matching the paint of the locomotive and cars was a very high priority with Deutsch Bundesbahn.
I would say they pulled any DB passengers cars from that era. In their last years they were also used to pull open hoppers in the Ruhr erea.
An authentic set, stationed in Augsburg..... https://www.marklin.com/products/de...rch_artnum]=81421&tx_torrpdb_pi1[searchres]=1
you're tempting me to buy yet another set i guess my br221 has to make friends with the locs which I already have
You're asking me? They've been hard to keep track of from Oklahoma. I was just helping you out with your google-fu. I guess so. I see pics of red and black engines double-heading with steamers. Haven't seen a pic of a blue and beige engine doing that.
Hey, it is your layout, so... any which car you like, as long as it is Z and has a corresponding coupler But seriously, the colour livery your loc is in, (apparently?) the blue and beige, is referred to in German as ozeanblau-beige (yep, German isn't that hard to figure out . Using that as a g**gle term might help. This is what I found.. Built in the early sixties as series V200, they where renumbered V221 from 1968. They pretty much ran all over Germany pulling passengertrains, also to Scandinavia (Denmark). From the second half of the seventies they where mostly stationed in the Ruhrgebiet (industrial heartland), pulling freighttrains of many sorts. Mid seventies the DB (DEutsche Bahn) introduced the so called Pop-design for cars and locs, including the blue and beige colors. Late eighties, 20 V221's were sold off to Greece, these kept their ozeanblau-beige livery. Later on, some of these came back to Germany where they were used by private railroad companies. One was bought by a private person, a lady train driver who had it restored beautifully to it's original red livery. So.. the blue and beige passengercars by Marklin are a good choice. Pretty much all of them. Dito for the freight cars. Stick to Era IV or V and you will be ok. Same with TEE. BR221 was known to pull the short (2 carriages) TEE "Merkur", which ran from Stuttgart, Germany to Copenhagen, Denmark. Here doubling with a red V200 pulling the blue and beige passengertrain: As far as the Hans Sachs set, this is an era III livery. The V221 was still V200 and in red. However, since DB wasn't that strict in the color repainting policy, I suppose some cars might still have been used carrying this look when the loc was already blue and beige. It is not very typical, though. Cheers, Matt
Dark blue and dark green Era III passenger cars could be seen into Era IV, but obviously became more and more rare. I probably only saw a handful in the first year (1986) or so of my posting, but don't remember any towards the end (1989). There were plenty of preserved steam, early diesel, and early electric locomotives and passenger equipment that occasionally got out for some exercise, so almost anything could be run and not be wrong. I have a bunch of German (and other European stock that fit my area of interest) N scale stuff that I blew a small fortune on while there (that has sadly been boxed up for decades), including some older stuff to run as fan excursions. I liked it, and there was enough prototypical justification. Someday...
