What passenger cars would a SP 4-6-0 Ten Wheeler have pulled?

SleeperN06 Jan 12, 2015

  1. SleeperN06

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    I wanted to run Daylight Madison Passenger Cars with it, but I don’t know if that would be prototypical.
     
  2. bremner

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    The first daylight was in 1937. They would've been Pullman Green.
     
  3. SleeperN06

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    Oh OK well thanks bremner.
     
  4. r_i_straw

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    Typically they would have pulled green Harriman style cars on minor branch line routes. At least from WWI era on.
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  7. r_i_straw

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    Not really much available in N scale for Harriman cars. Wheels of Time has done them and there used to be brass sides and roofs available from J&J.
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  8. santafe

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  9. Maletrain

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    Wheels of Time is doing another run of Harriman cars, which can be pre-ordered now.
     
  10. SPsteam

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    Yikes, the price on that coach is pretty steep. You might be able to find some Wheels of Time coaches on the various auction sites. For a stand-in, you could locate some Bmann shorty passenger cars and repaint/letter them for SP. They would have clerestory roofs instead of the round harriman style, but will be "close enough".
     
  11. SleeperN06

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    Thanks I'll take a look around.

    I think I may have a couple of old heavy weights that resemble those Russel posted, but they are in pretty bad shape. I bought a box of cars from eBay to use as parts and I don’t remember what they are now. I can’t see well enough to make my own or custom paint and want to buy something off the shelf.
    Well I guess I’ll have to figure something else out. I have too many freight trains and looking for something different for the old South West.
    I might have to completely change to North Eastern trains like "Pennsy" or something because there seems to be more available in N for Steamers.
     
  12. bremner

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    Micro Trains also makes some nice heavyweight standings....and their upcoming horse car is an SP prototype
     
  13. r_i_straw

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    I used a lot of the old Bachmann shorty cars with J&J roofs.
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  14. SleeperN06

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    Thanks I just took a peek and I think that's what I'm going to use.:)
     
  15. SleeperN06

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    I just took a look through my old passenger cars and found a set of Santa Fe. I guess i could use those until I acquire some SPs

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  16. SleeperN06

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    Oh now I like those.
     
  17. Jerry M. LaBoda

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    That is a print of an Espee suburban coach, used in central California commuter service. As for the J-n-J sides, they are far from being correct as far as being Harriman cars... more accurately representative of early steel "Gothic" cars with the upper sash window, similar to what was produced by a number of the early steel car builders. Still usable sides but they are not Harriman.
     
  18. SleeperN06

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    I really don't care if they are Harriman and actually I've never even heard of Harriman before now. I just want to be close to the era and territory since N sale has always been a pain in the butt trying to be prototypical because availability is so sketchy. It's one of the reasons why I like to buy complete sets so I don't have to go through this, but even then someone almost surely finds something wrong with the set as well.
    I still remember my first N-scale train consist that I put together from eBay purchases and all I got was criticism about the freight cars not working with the Loco I had at the time.
     
  19. r_i_straw

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    The term "Harriman" is really misused. To be totally correct it would only refer to cars ordered from around 1906 to mid 1914 and built using the "Common Standards" developed for the lines that Harriman controlled at that time. After 1914 the different railroads went their separate ways. The SP modified the Common Standards and developed new plans based on them. So, many features like the arched roof carried over to later designs. The etched brass sides that J&J sold, were close to many of these designs but built to fit existing cars that were on the market at that time. The baggage car sides were made to fit the Bachmann shorty coaches and are close to the Class 60-B cars that SP had. The RPO sides are kind of close to the Class 60-P postal cars although they have a few extra windows. The longer coach sides were made to fit the Lima/Model Power coaches and are close to the Class 72-C series of cars on the SP. J&J sold short arched roofs cast in resin that fit the Bachmann cars but I think the only arched roofs available for the Model Power cars were those from N Hobby Distributing.
     
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    Not seeing the roofs on the JnJ sites.
     

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