NOCH BADEN BADEN PREMADE LAYOUT HELP

I'm interested in is the NOCH 84830 Baden Baden layout. It cost about 1000.00 dollars without track etc. I was thinking of building on my own table. Most info on it is in german, I think. I Have the track plan and wondered if it could somehow be changed into english or something I can understand. I have some track plans but they are made for german tracks and I don't understand how they are drawn. SEE track plans at bottom. Can this be done with atlas track in N scale. How could I go about this I like the plan. Ron
VIDEO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teDT55-O30g&feature=related


Track Plan

 

I have been doing something very similar redrawing their HO plans in N.

Each plan is drawn in the downloaded PDF using the various sectional tracks available in Europe. There is a lot of standardisation between manufacturers which helps.

What I have done is used AnyRail track planning software and redrawn using the appropriate target track library. AnyRail does support Atlas track system, but in your case it might be easier to use the Atlas version downloadable (I think) from their site. You can then attempt to redraw the plan using the planning software to see if it is feasible.

 

The minimum radius and size of turnouts used by Minitrix etc is a lot smaller than Atlas equivalents. Hopefully the attached will illustrate.

That does not mean you could not do it, just expect the finished size to be bigger. This could be an advantage as the Noch layouts often feature dual gradients (i.e. one track going down, with the other going up) in order to get sufficient height clearance so gradients can be steep. Going larger would reduce this.

Just tried roughing this out in AnyRail based on Atlas Code 80 sectional track (with some flexi included). Unfortunately the unregistered copy of AnyRail only supports 50 pieces of track so this is as far as I can go with this software. Using the larger Atlas turnouts and radii it looks as if the final plan would work out around 1900mm x 1050mm compared with the 1700 x 1000 of the original Noch design.

 

Assuming you can live with the extremely tight curves, the other issue would be the turnouts. I would try and find the dimensions of an Arnold or Minitrix turnout to see if you can place your desired Atlas/Peco/whatever parts as close together as the diagram shows. You could always substitute flex track for everything else, assuming the flex track can be bent that tightly. Definitely not a layout for 2-10-2 steamers or 85 foot passenger cars...

 

Hi, if there's some information you'd like to have translated in english, I speak German, I can do that for you. Just tell me where to find the information. I didn't know about this layout, but the video is fun to me.

You can pm me for my mailaddress, If you like.

 

Here is a guy that did the Noch layout, then made his own based on the layout but made it 4 X 8:

Noch Baden Baden
Noch Baden Baden 2

His version on a 4 x 8

 

I think I'm ok for now. I'll keep it in mind. Thanks Ron

 

Thanks all for your comments. I just thought it was a nice plan as it has alot of trains able to run at one time(5) and at different levels in a small space. If anyone sees a small layout with this type of action let me know. Thanks Ron

 

Possibly. I used Code 80 as the AnyRail track library suggested it went to a smaller initial radius. In reality I would probably use flexitrack and could smooth the curves more. The purpose of the exercise, in my case, was to see how large the minimum layout size became using more generous US standards. Of course going larger still would also be a benefit.

 

Years ago, perhaps 20, I purchased a Kibri preformed layout. I installed Atlas track with one or two changes to the suggested track pattern. I got instant scenery on a light weight and sturdy layout. Although pricey, I think it was a good value to jump start to a layout with scenery prebuilt--my opinion.

 

What I like is the track plan. Only 6 feet by 3 feet N scale. I would like to draw the plan to use Atlas track. I downloaded the Atlas track planner but I don't know if I can use it right. See pic and layout in action. I think originally this is German track used. Thanks Ron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teDT55-O30g&feature=related