BarstowRick Moves To Nampa, Idaho

BarstowRick Oct 24, 2018

  1. BarstowRick

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    Wanted to meet railfans and model railroaders in Idaho.

    If there's anyone in the Great Treasure Valley, of Idaho, participating here on TrainBoard.com I'd appreciate hearing from you. How about introducing yourself at the Caldwell Model Railroad Club this coming Wednesday night? Looking forward to meeting with fellow railfans and model railroaders in the area.

    What say you?
     
  2. Josta

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    Here is the hearse picture Rick mentions; they had to take the casket, wreath, and headstone out to be able to get to the spare tire lol. This was taken in the ghost town of Kelly Grove, was a nod to Rick's profession, and you can see the Howland Bridge, also named after Rick, in the background.

    You're very welcome, Rick. We will always have great memories of our evenings together!

    John

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  3. BarstowRick

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    Is that picture awesome or what? LOL

    The first time I saw it I was reminded of a number of times when leaving the mortuary headed for a cemetery, when I had a flat. When I saw this on John's layout I literally laughed out loud. Of course... I got to change my own tire. I didn't get to stand around like the FD in the picture. Yep, I thought this portrayal was cool. A conundrum no funeral director wants, re-played here. And yes, you have to move the casket out to get to the spare tire. Not fun!

    On Steve's layout I have a back door funeral parlor and small cemetery, Howland Grove. On my layout I have a cremation center with smoke included, The Howland Cremation Society and plans to build an A frame, Funeral Home. Planning a Rick's Pathology Center for people on the Go! You'll have to think about that one. It could have something to do with cryogenic's.

    The bridge in the background adds much to John's layout and we've spent hours watching as the trains slowly cross it or use it to see-saw back and forth while switching a Packing Shed. Notice I said switching and not "turnouting". :censored::LOL::ROFLMAO::sneaky:
     
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    Club Report,
    Things went well and I got a chance to meet some real fine gals and guys. Got so busy talking I forgot about my camera in the car. Pictures will come soon enough, just not now. Looking to see what contributions I can make.

    My layout, Now I find myself getting steamed up to put my layout back together. It didn't come down easy and I found it to be very HEAVY!!! To heavy for me to handle by myself. I didn't realize I'd made it so heavy. Took two of us to haul it out of the train shed and onto the U-haul truck. And I'm sure you can guess, I won't do that again.

    Tired and need to head for the sack. Got a Feline male youngster that will be taking a visit to the vet in the morning. I haven't told him I'm getting him fixed. It would be slash and dash time.

    Later.
     
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    The visit to the vet went well. After I got a flat tire aired up. After dropping my buddy off I then went by a tire shop and they repaired the tire. Later in the afternoon I was back at the vet to pick him up. He appears to be hurting a little but otherwise he's fine.

    Fall is in full swing here and the trees are alive with color. Then the wind picks up and the leaves are dropping. Now I need to rake them up. Nights are getting into the high 20's. Winter is threatening to arrive. Tomorrow a visit to the laundromat. Isn't this exciting? Not!

    I know pictures. Be patient. I haven't made up my mind I want to...yet! Got to get out and shoot them first. Tired of seeing the world through the viewing hole or screen, of a camera. :confused: :censored:;):coffee:

    More later.
     
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    Looking forward to the pictures, Rick!

    John
     
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    Afraid I'm going to make you wait a bit longer. Have photos on my smart phone but not smart enough to know how to transfer them to my computer. Gosh, why do they have to make everyting so difficult.

    They are getting ready for an open house. A visit to the local Caldwell Train Station, Friday p.m.. Thought I heard there was a tree lighting, lights on the river and more. Sounds like fun.

    Lot's of teens at the club today. Good to see young people interested in the hobby. There just might be a future.
     
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    If your phone has a cable to charge the battery, it should plug right into a USB port of the computer. Easy to simply click the files or folder, and select "Copy", then direct it to wherever on the computer.
     
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    I was hoping I could Hot spot or WiFi them over to my computer. Apparently I haven't unlocked that secret. Yet!!

    On the computer center I installed for a church Audio Visual System we used special adapters to make such things happen. I need to order out one of those in order to do the same thing here. So the phone isn't always outsmarting me but Big Bear Dam... these new contraptions. Amazing tinker toys but out smarts me every-time. I don't like things that are smarter then I....am.

    Here it is my 5th Sunday since I left Big Bear Lake. Not regretting it particularly. Good friends and the fun we had...for sure. Left a lot of my furniture behind because the truck wasn't loaded right. On the flip side I've been able to replace most of it with better quality stuff from the Thrift Stores, in the area. Even found Home Alone II. I still have VCR's and loads of tapes to view so we keep that tradition alive. Love the Railroad tapes I edited for my own viewing pleasure. Not something I could bring or share here. Mr. copyright would slap my hand...again.

    It was shared with me that the guys and gals at the model railroad club, don't wish to be publicized either in pictures or by name on the internet. At least there are some sensitivities to such. So I won't be bringing pictures of the gals and guys without their permission. I can shoot the layout all day long but I must be careful about who shows up in the pictures and my comments here on line. I will honor that.

    I usually but things into a fictional setting to tell a particularly interesting story. I've done that on BarstowRick.com without revealing who I'm really talking about. I had one guy in Florida, ask me if I was writing about him? My answer was certainly...LOL..of course, why not? I've been following him with my spy cam...heeheehee hawhawhaw. He said he LOL'd at that one...knowing better. But it made for an interesting lead in to a story, he told and gave me permission to share. Thanks!

    Lots going on as we head into the Holiday Season. The plans for Thanksgiving Dinner, The Live Christmas Tree Concerts, The Tree lighting and River Lights. All things I'm looking forward to attending. Gosh, I'm going to be busier here then I was in Big Bear. The one thing I haven't found and want to go to is a presentation of the Handel's, Messiah. I sang parts of it in my Jr. and Sr., years in Highschool. Loved it! I was the only tenor that could hit the high C with a little cheating and falsetto (checking spelling) voice. Squealed like a girl...SIGH! Embarrassing at the time.

    So, it's Model Railroad Month. Clubs, groups, train meets and train shows are in full swing, again. So get out and see what contributions you can make or better yet go see what you can enjoy.

    Having Fun in Nampa, Caldwell, Meridian and Boise, Idaho. Not as cold here...yet...as it is in Big Bear, which has me scratching my head. Idaho is the land of colder then cold, so I've been told. Big Bear is getting down into the teens at night while we are still in the 30s. Well, maybe not. According to my phone it's 28 degrees outside...right now. At least that's what my smarter then me phone is indicating. :confused::unsure::sneaky::censored:
     
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    History of the UP in the Treasure Valley:

    While visiting the club Saturday I learned a few things that answers my questions about the Boise Depot. Truth is stranger then fiction. First off there's never been a by-pass built to by-pass Boise. The main line was built as you see it today. It never went to Boise. The first track into Boise was built as a dead end or stub end spur, by UP, leaving Nampa. ID.. I think I already said, just as you see it today. It ended near or slightly beyond the Boise Depot. Not sure but thinking it may of had something to do with mining, cattle and water in the area. The popular story is it was built to help build a dam just north east of Boise. Later and we seem to draw a blank here. Tracks from the east was added and some passenger trains were routed through to Boise. The grade to Boise was the biggest deterrent. At best it's been described as a stub end siding and later a run through siding. Currently or once again it is a stub end siding, as originally built.

    I met an honest to God Engineer for the Boise Railroad. Learned the day my daughter took me on a flying tour, that the UP locomotive they were dragging was headed to the former Morrison Knudson shops to be rebuilt. Not quite what I assumed before. You know what assuming does. Made a donkey out of me. Heehaw Heehaw. Gosh! Sigh!

    Now the train station currently siting in Nampa, is not the original one. It was moved there by UP. From somewhere east of Nampa, ID. Now the train station in Caldwell is the last one UP used. It is restored, open every day, harbors a museum and there's no entry fee. This coming Friday there is a Holiday event and lot's of celebrating. I'll elaborate more after the event.

    Nice to get answers to questions.
     
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  11. BoxcabE50

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    Just like the MILW actually bypassed in-town Butte, Montana. Although not a long move, they had to back passenger trains into town. Their freight yard was on the southeast end of town.
     
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    I tend to be critical of verbal applications. In case you hadn't noticed. I pick at expressions and descriptions of things both from the past and today. I'm wondering out loud if in most applications bi-pass is actually a misnomer. In the case of Boise, when UP built through here there was hardly anything in Boise to bi-pass, let alone talk about. A popular saying here in Boise territory, is Boise was a cowboy town that out grew it's britches. Today, it would be easy to say UP bi-past Boise. But as far as an actual bi-pass in the sense of something new as in recently, which is the way it was presented to me. NO! Not at all. So no matter how we word shop it, it leaves something to be desired and doesn't communicate what actually happened here. It you get my drift.

    Yesterday was an almost normal day. The feline friends, the whole gang of them woke me up early. Hungry little monsters. Then off to the laundromat. Some shopping. Phone calls to Big Bear Country, to hear from friends and see what they are doing. Not much! A little gloating on the phone about the model railroad club. Bragging about my granddaughters and the concert they performed in. They have both their Dad's and Grandpa's musical talent and their Momma's vocal abilities. Excuse me if I pop a few buttons. A Wendy's, Chili Cheese IDAHO baked potato and it was time to watch a railroad video. Winding things down and head for the bunk house.

    You all have a good one.
     
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    You want pictures...??? Let's see if this works.

    Not sure but I dragged it here yelling and screaming.
    I think it made it.

    A engine facility still under construction. MR. C's., project on the CMR&HS Club Layout.
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    I was impressed with two things. One Mr. C's., work and the fact this smarter then me phone took this picture. Now we know why the geep is in for servicing. You can see clearly the handrails on the left side need to be pushed back in and welded in place.


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    In the mountains of ID is the small mining town of Burke. This hotel is still under construction. You can see the base of a bottle of glue through the breezeway.

    Lot's of interesting stuff going on with the Club Layout,

    Now just how did I do that?
    Almost thumb nail pictures. Wonder how I could enlarge them?

    Maybe...:cautious::censored::sneaky:... more to come. We will wait to see how Mr. Copyright responds.

    Thanks to Ken and Al (son-in-law) for putting me on the right track, enabling me to add some pictures here.
     
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    Burke. Did you know such a town really exists in Idaho? Just north of Wallace. A branch line of the NP RY. to Burke and Gem. Long ago.....
     
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    Below each post. After you add the photo, an option shows which allows you to select between thumbnail and full size.
     
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    I didn't, but Gary at the Caldwell Model Railroad Museum, knows of it and is modeling it. I'm impressed with what he's doing and may do some research on line to see what I can learn.

    Catching on finally. You have some new tools to play with since I last spotted pictures on TB.
    Still a lot of steps but that's true with any website or so it seems.

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    I will try that next time. Thanks Ken.
     
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    Rick, I lived in Boise from 1985 through about 1990. I did outside sales, and called on this company called Morrison Knudsen. This was some years before I even started thinking about model railroads.

    That yard had a bunch of torn apart Southern Pacific locos. I was fascinated by all the bare looms of wires hanging out willy nilly from all these half assembled engines, and all kinds of parts spread everywhere. Sure wish I had taken pictures at the time. Only got a shot of the UP station. Boise ID Union Pacific Station Jul 1983.jpg
     
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    That's the train station I didn't get a picture of. A fairly elaborate passenger station just to have trains back up to it. Still researching what happened here.

    Now on the outside ot the tower instead of Union Pacific Railroad it now reads Boise Depot.

    Thanks for sharing it here.
     
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    Rick, I've been out of the loop, didn't realize you were moving.
    I'd say we'll keep the home fires burning, but....well, I've had enough Camp Fire Smoke this last week, just as soon we put them out. :)

    good to see you're getting into the swing of things. I don't know much about Idaho except that I drove I84 when I moved from Chicago to Portland in 2001. Amazing scenery. You gonna jump the Snake River Like Evil Kneivil?

    I did see 2 conversations a page back that I have some thoughts on.
    High Desert... technically High Desert specially refers to the Mojave Desert and Environs. Any portion that is higher than 2000' above sea level.
    So Palm Springs at 100' is not part of the High Desert as an example. I've heard of the northern Great basin referred to as High Desert as an adjective vs. a proper noun. Specifically the Modoc desert which is in north eastern California. So Nampa, being in the great basin East of the Casscades is for sure a Desert, though one further north.
    I mean, since the Mojave is part of the Great Basin too...you're really still in the same desert. Just the other end. :) If you really want to see a change in Scenery, take a trip west on I84 between the Dalles and Hood River. That will be a very different experience of pine trees compared to big bear.

    On Morrison Knudsen.
    Morrison Knudsen DID NOT go out of business. Or rather, THEY did, but it's more complex than that.
    MK created a division in the 70s called MK rail. That business obviously did the railroad work. They Spun off MK Rail in the 1990s. Then Morrison Knudsen went bankrupt, but MK Rail was not part of the company anymore. MK Rail renamed themselves Motive Power Industries. Then more recently MPI merged with Westinghouse Airbrake to create the company Wabtec. They still use MPI as the name for the locomotive division.

    So, the Plant in Boise never really changed hands. Morrison Knudsen just divested and then they changed the name.
     
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