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    Well, OK. Not quite ACL/SAL. But it was absorbed into the SCL.

    Just curious- I don't want to buy a book. But was wondering- Is there a good web site for a little history about this company?

    :D

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    Last operator was NELLO TEER Construction Co. The old man (Yes Virginia, like BERRY PINK of marbles
    fame, there was a Mr. NELLO TEER ), liked playing
    with trains and also wanted to get sand cheaply for the many aggregate plants he owned or used inthe area. The sand pits were down in Irwin near Dunn , that was the shop town for the D&S.

    Theyhad dieselized with BALDWINS, and ran them 'til just before the SAL takeover, Prior to that they used mainline decapods. In fact, in 1932 , which was in GREAT DEPRESSION they were only Class 1 railroad in the country to buy a new steamer.

    The N&W reached Durham on its line from Lynchburg. In order to keep turning traffic over to its then competitor the Southern , it used the
    D&S where possible to reach the Seaboard Airline. Even after the merger of SAL and ACL , they continued this routing to SAL trackage at
    Apex and ex ACL at Dunn. Overhead included
    piggyback traffic and through coal trains.
    Nello Teer built a headquarters in Durham , which was the north end of this 52 mile system.
    When the routing was no longer profitable for the big boys to use ; and also when Nello Teer Construction, (that incidentally was major player in the urbanization of the areas known as the TRIAD, and RESEARCH TRIANGLE, in North Carolina) didn't need it to have aan advantage
    it was sold. It had two Black and White EMD
    switchers named "BUll" and "Durham" at the time.
    It has been cut back to Durham -Apex. Their trackage on the north side of where it crossed
    SAL there is now a tank car facility of pretty large size. The LPG sit south of the SAL tracks there is still big receiver. Dunn shops are gone,
    the Durham Office building is no longer used by
    anyone connected with old railroad. The old
    circus loading piggy back ramp is still there
    unserved. There is still lots of track and hardware laying around down in the sand pits , as of ten years ago, but I don't know what is current.
    That's all for now. PJB

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    Can't believe that searching the web won't turn up some sort of site. All that I have located so far, is references to the RR name.

    So, good thing you posted today. It's 100% more than I could find. And 100% more than I knew! Thanks!

    :D

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    Durham and Southern?

    This url is for them:

    http://home.nc.rr.com/railroad/ds/
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjb
    Last operator was NELLO TEER Construction Co. The old man (Yes Virginia, like BERRY PINK of marbles
    fame, there was a Mr. NELLO TEER ), liked playing
    with trains and also wanted to get sand cheaply for the many aggregate plants he owned or used inthe area. The sand pits were down in Irwin near Dunn , that was the shop town for the D&S.

    Theyhad dieselized with BALDWINS, and ran them 'til just before the SAL takeover, Prior to that they used mainline decapods. In fact, in 1932 , which was in GREAT DEPRESSION they were only Class 1 railroad in the country to buy a new steamer.

    The N&W reached Durham on its line from Lynchburg. In order to keep turning traffic over to its then competitor the Southern , it used the
    D&S where possible to reach the Seaboard Airline. Even after the merger of SAL and ACL , they continued this routing to SAL trackage at
    Apex and ex ACL at Dunn. Overhead included
    piggyback traffic and through coal trains.
    Nello Teer built a headquarters in Durham , which was the north end of this 52 mile system.
    When the routing was no longer profitable for the big boys to use ; and also when Nello Teer Construction, (that incidentally was major player in the urbanization of the areas known as the TRIAD, and RESEARCH TRIANGLE, in North Carolina) didn't need it to have aan advantage
    it was sold. It had two Black and White EMD
    switchers named "BUll" and "Durham" at the time.
    It has been cut back to Durham -Apex. Their trackage on the north side of where it crossed
    SAL there is now a tank car facility of pretty large size. The LPG sit south of the SAL tracks there is still big receiver. Dunn shops are gone,
    the Durham Office building is no longer used by
    anyone connected with old railroad. The old
    circus loading piggy back ramp is still there
    unserved. There is still lots of track and hardware laying around down in the sand pits , as of ten years ago, but I don't know what is current.
    That's all for now. PJB
    Nice history there!
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    The modern Norfolk Southern has honored the original D&S with the "D&S Jct." on its line....

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    Don't forget that Nello Teer used his many aggregates to assist him in his highway road building ventures, which lowered his costs so he could outbid others for contracts around the area!

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    [quote=hal;317636]This url is for them:

    http://home.nc.rr.com/railroad/ds/ [/quote]

    I was just looking at this again. And something started bothering me. That web site says they ran their last train on July 5, 1979. Then were merged into CSX. AFAIK- CSX as a RR holding entity, did not happen until about Fall of 1980. Something seems wrong here.

    :confused:

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    "...last train on July 5, 1979. Then were merged into CSX..."

    The word "then" fills a space of time in the article, the D&S merged into the SCL, which became part of CSX later.
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    Pat-

    I'd figured they must have gone into SCL/Family Lines. However, bridging well over a year with "then" seems to be a bit lengthy. And surely skips across an important step in history. "Then" seems as though something more immediate is happening.

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