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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxcabE50 View Post
    It is interesting to hear the sounds as that weight rolls along. Imagining the forces of that tonnage on those rails and ties is almost mind boggling. I hope we'll eventually see more of how this progresses.
    Almost 600 Tons supported on 40 wheels, spread over about 130 feet of unsecured panel track, and moving...sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hytec View Post
    Almost 600 Tons supported on 40 wheels, spread over about 130 feet of unsecured panel track, and moving...sheesh.
    Note the "stringer" type timbers under those ties, otherwise the whole thing would be crushing that pavement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxcabE50 View Post
    Note the "stringer" type timbers under those ties, otherwise the whole thing would be crushing that pavement.
    Thanks, I missed that. I hadn't considered that only one tie would be supporting the entire load of two wheels, obviously stringers would be needed to spread the load....duh.
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    I don't know, I could only see stringers under the curved portion of panel track. I assumed it was for superelevation or just for leveling so none of the wheels would climb a joint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP30 View Post
    I don't know, I could only see stringers under the curved portion of panel track. I assumed it was for superelevation or just for leveling so none of the wheels would climb a joint.
    It looked to me as though the whole thing has been on a curve. They certainly have enough room, so it should not need to be a really tight radius. But the anti-derailment idea does seem very logical.
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    I read that during the initial move the front driver (IIRC) started to climb the rail. The move was immediately stopped and 4014 allowed to settle back a foot or so, so the rail could be greased. Apparently that fix worked OK when the move was restarted because the driver didn't try to climb the rail again.
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    The UP West Colton yard is west of San Bernardino and south of I-10; so the question is; will 4014 be moved through the pass via the Colton cutoff, or via the BNSF SB yard through a more populated area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hytec View Post
    Thanks, I missed that. I hadn't considered that only one tie would be supporting the entire load of two wheels, obviously stringers would be needed to spread the load....duh.
    Quote Originally Posted by BoxcabE50 View Post
    Note the "stringer" type timbers under those ties, otherwise the whole thing would be crushing that pavement.
    Not stringers fellas, just sheets of plywood laying under the rails to make sure the ties are fully supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatonMan View Post
    The UP West Colton yard is west of San Bernardino and south of I-10; so the question is; will 4014 be moved through the pass via the Colton cutoff, or via the BNSF SB yard through a more populated area?
    I would guess it will be moved through the pass via the Colton cut since BNSF HATES steam on their rails.

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    If BNSF hates it so much then why are 3751 and 4449 always running on BNSF track. In fact 4449 has spent more time on the BNSF than she has on UP.

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