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    Question ATSF Super Chief motive power

    What were the normal lashups for this train? I'm pretty sure an ABBA of F-7's was probably the most common , but what about an ABBA of F-3's or even ABBBA of F-3's? There are no F-7 B's available anywhere as far as I could tell.
    Looking for a Christmas gift for myself,(the complete train(Kato), and I don't care if it has ABBA or ABBBA of F-3's as long as the prototype did it.
    Thanks Super Chief fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselfan1 View Post
    What were the normal lashups for this train?
    When?

    E-3 #11 on Super Chief, 1945 Warbonnet 2ndQ 2005 p.14

    E-6 “Modeling the E-6s on the Super Chief” Warbonnet 2Q 2006 p.19

    at various times with FTs, F3s, and F7s.

    Do youi mean specificially in the time period of the passenger car set you are acquiring?

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    To go with the consist modeled by Kato, either F3s or F7s would be correct. In the summer of 1969 you could have seen FP45s when they ran the Super and the El Cap as separate trains during peak seasons for the last time. I think the FP45s were delivered in 1968 so maybe they were on the point of the Super Chief during the winter peak and the summer of 68.
    Last edited by r_i_straw; December 9th, 2012 at 07:30 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r_i_straw View Post
    To go with the consist modeled by Kato, either F3s or F7s would be correct.
    Thanks, this is pretty much what I was thinking. How about an ABBBA of F-3's?

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    I believe they started adding extra B units when they ran the combined El Capitain/Super Chief. When running by itself, I believe they usually used A-B-B-A for power on the Super Chief.
    Russell Straw, Sugar Land Route

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    F units in ABBA or ABBBA would be more dependent on track elecation that train. For example, across the flat lands of the Midwest an ABBA would be more than adequate. Up and over the Rockies would be a different story.
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    David

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    Frequently the combinations would be something like ABAABBA, as more locomotives were added as needed without breaking up the basic ABBA group.

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    Don't forget that the E1's, PA's, DL-107/8's and FM Erie Built were used as needed

    Modeling Casa Grande in the mid 1980's...before the BORG

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    I've seen photos of ABABBA or ABABBB and other odd configurations, especially in their latter years when they were starting to show their age mechanically. I think when it came to the crunch they used whatever it took to get over the road. Santa Fe's F units came in neat boxed ABBA sets from EMD but they didn't last that way for long.

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